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  • Paso fino , weight limit to ride
  • What breed of horse are andadura

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    11-08-2013, 09:29 PM
This is really similar to the Andadura gait in paso finos which a lot of people may not have heard of. It is a natural gait- but of course you can push anything to the limits. I didn't watch the whole video but it didn't seem especially cruel or unusual to me. There is nothing wrong with working a horse- yes, it is wrong to 'sore' a horse or run them to the ground, but they are made to work.
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    11-08-2013, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyp    
I suppose I should apologize to most of "you folks"......


Apology accepted. I figure I can do the honors for the rest of "you folks," ok?
    11-08-2013, 09:56 PM
If you're curious, here is an example of the Andadura in my neck of the woods. I'm making NO STATEMENT by posting this, just sharing the equivalent for paso finos. They are bred to do this and they either do or don't. If your horse can't Andadura there is no real good way to 'make' them do it. There are responsible people and irresponsible people in every discipline, this is no exception. There are both underground races and officially sanctioned events.

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    11-08-2013, 10:03 PM
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I just don't see how running on concrete can NOT be hard on their bones. Yes, they might not hit as hard as a galloping horse hits on his leading leg , since all the weight is born momentarily on one leg, but do they really not suffer and break down sooner by being raced on concrete? Humans will break down if they run on concrete, all out.
    11-08-2013, 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by tinyliny    
I just don't see how running on concrete can NOT be hard on their bones. Yes, they might not hit as hard as a galloping horse hits on his leading leg , since all the weight is born momentarily on one leg, but do they really not suffer and break down sooner by being raced on concrete? Humans will break down if they run on concrete, all out.
I agree tinylily, I moved here from the states and it has been VERY hard to get used to riding horses on concrete- because of the nature of how things are set up here you even end up riding your pleasure horses on concrete a lot. Where I grew up you wouldn't even run your horse on hard packed dirt! So yes, this makes me cringe. But, it is a reality. More so just wanted to share some of the the versions of faster gaits in other horses for the sake of...... well, not argument but let's just say discussion ;)
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    11-09-2013, 01:17 AM
Originally Posted by bbsmfg3    
Don't knock it until you've tried it. We have a 36 mph speed racker. It is addicting. You just don't ask for these speeds just any where. The blacktop is probably one of the safer places, ie, it is usually smooth and fairly straight. And you don't travel at these speeds for very long at a time. I've seen a whole lot fewer accidents with the speed rackers than with the gaming QH, And 1000's of time fewer than with the racing QHs.

You think Reverend Homer is breath taking, look up Falcon Rowdy on youtube. Johnny is riding him bareback, with one hand(he lost one arm in an accident) and he is hitting speeds in the low 50 mph range.

Speed rackers do not hit the ground hard. If they did they'd drive you right down thru the saddle. The are light on their feet, or they could not travel at these speeds.
Low 50s? Then he should get a record keeper out to record it. The fastest a horse has ever been clocked speedracking is 51. The fastest a horse has been clocked ever was a racing QH at 53 mph. So he's either exaggerating or shattering many records.
    11-09-2013, 02:19 AM
I've seen these videos before and honestly, I'm tempted to make my next horse a single-footer. They look like fun and it would be nice to have a horse that smooth on the longer trail rides.
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    11-09-2013, 03:15 AM
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As long as the trail was straight and flat
    11-09-2013, 07:46 AM
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    11-09-2013, 08:23 AM
Originally Posted by jimmyp    
Hostility? Yeah maybe a little. Talking down to y'all? No. At least not nearly to the extent of referring to anyone as a sub culture. I've got a racking horse in the barn and am about to wean one. I have friends that are part of this group of low lifes. I can take you to a set of starting gates in a field 10mins from my house where my dad and father in law and several of their buddies used to "brush race" so my wife and I who used to watch them run as children must be something less than human cause we enjoyed it.

Rarely will I get riled but I will say again. When the only point of reference a person has is YouTube then I will admit it irritates me.

That said some of the heaviest handed trainers I know are barrel horse trainers.

But there's no reason to take that out on every single person that is posting in this thread. Lumping us together as folks, is being demeaning in my opinion. I do agree that people shouldn't lump a training method together based on a horses breed. Not all of us do that, so don't lump all of us together please. Sorry for opening my mouth, it takes me a while to get riled as well. I just don't like seeing hostility between members as was presented here yesterday. I am thankful that you can apologize to some people here and vice versa. Maybe the ones that you can't apologize to need a little education. It's bound to happen though, when people don't understand something as a whole and only focus on mass media opinions and 'knowledge'. They get it in their heads that "oh my goodness, all TWH's are trained this way" or whatever the case of the argument. Sorry again for the troubles, I just had to speak my moment of peace. No hard feelings :P

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