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post #21 of 28 Old 06-04-2012, 01:00 AM
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I rode in an Imus, once. It sat me very high off the horse and I have never been so "locked in" a saddle; I couldn't adjust my position at all and it puts you in a chair seat. I've seen quite a few complaints on message boards (including her's) that the saddle rolls or slides around. Wouldn't ever buy one.
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post #22 of 28 Old 06-06-2012, 12:52 AM
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Is this website saying that that gaited horses don't need a rocker to the tree? They call it "twist" but I think they mean "rock," correct?

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By calling it "twist" it is really confusing, because *if I'm understanding them correctly* they really mean "rocker."

So they are saying all gaited horses need a tree without rocker? Isn't that kind of a broad brush?

I'm not sure I abide by that theory. I guess my Fox Trotter does have a flatter back than my Mustang, but still. I would rather err on the side of a little rock than too flat. Too flat and the saddle digs in at the four points of the tree. Especially if the horse travels a little hollow, which is common with gaited horses actually gaiting.

If anything I was under the assumption that gaited horses needed more rock to account for shoulder movement. Won't a flat tree be more likely to dig into their shoulders?

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post #23 of 28 Old 06-06-2012, 11:38 AM
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Broad brush, indeed.

This is just more evidence that the "gaited horse saddle" is a marketing gimick, not a true "saddle type."

When I see this I "run away" from that maker as fast as possible. If they will lie to me about this, what else will they lie about?

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post #24 of 28 Old 06-08-2012, 03:24 AM
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We have owned an Imus saddle for several years. Although it is comfortable for me to ride in it doesn't fit my Rocky well. He's narrow bodied with medium high withers. I noticed a few months ago he was getting white hairs on his shoulders where the saddle seemed to be sitting heavy on him. As far as quality goes I haven't had any problems with it. It's very comfortable for longer rides. I'm trying a much better pad on him with the Imus but have a feeling we will end up selling it. I am looking into a treeless saddle for the Rocky. Just don't know if that is going to solve the problem.
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We have owned an Imus saddle for several years. Although it is comfortable for me to ride in it doesn't fit my Rocky well. He's narrow bodied with medium high withers. I noticed a few months ago he was getting white hairs on his shoulders where the saddle seemed to be sitting heavy on him. As far as quality goes I haven't had any problems with it. It's very comfortable for longer rides. I'm trying a much better pad on him with the Imus but have a feeling we will end up selling it. I am looking into a treeless saddle for the Rocky. Just don't know if that is going to solve the problem.
I have a treeless and I love it for conditioning and such. I also love it because they are basically really fancy bareback pads. If you do not have the balance and aren't under the weight requirements for one, you shouldn't use one. The only reason I was so sold on them is because I would rather ride bareback then with a tree, but some of the conditions I ride in do call for a saddle. Now, don't get me wrong, I love my treeless, but I am a firm believer that even if you do have a treeless, you still need a fitted treed saddle. I like my treeless because I can use it in between fitness levels while my horse is coming back into work. Example: She foaled about 2 and a half months ago (holy crap where did that time go..?) and while before she foaled she had a wonderful amount of suppleness and a pretty good topline, that all went to hell after she foaled. Her topline currently looks like crap. So while I am trying to build up her topline I am using my treeless saddle because it will fit her no matter what. When she does come back into her fitness range, I will get her fitted for a saddle.

On the treeless again, as far as balance goes, you need to have impeccable balance to ride in one. If you don't have good balance, your seat will put undue pressure on the horses spine which we all know is not good.

However, I do LOVE my treeless, and my horse does too. She works well in it, and often seems nice and peppy and rarin to go in it! She has even taken a liking to jumping because of it :) If you do go treeless, talk to a dealer. The dealer I used corresponded with me for about 2 months and was so helpful that I am thankful for her! I still email her today and speak with her. She will go out of her way, contacting the company CEO to find things out for you. Her name is Paulita Neff, and here is a link to her business website -->Saddle Up Treeless Saddles for Trail, Endurance, Competitive Distance Trail, Dressage, and Jumping

I have a Freeform saddle, and I went with the cheapest one I could because they are EXPENSIVE. I wanted the Freeform Wave or the EnduroX, but went with the classic in suede because it was in my price range. You have an option of returning a saddle purchased with Paulita if you do not like it. I actually fell in love with the Barefoot saddles more then the Freeform, and I still like the look of Barefoot saddles (they look kind of rustic and I like that), but the Freeform is like the Cadillac of treeless saddles. It is the top of the line. Made in Italy, professionally designed, and they look so good on the horse! I know that the last point isn't a reason to buy but it's true lol

I hope I helped a little with your saddle conundrum dear! PM me for any other info or questions, although I do recommend speaking with Paulita for detailed information :)

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post #26 of 28 Old 06-08-2012, 09:59 AM
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treeless saddle

Thanks for the info. I've done a little research on treeless saddles and rode in a friend's Bob Marshall barrel saddle. They seem to take care of the issue of balance and really hold you in the seat properly. The company recently produced endurance style gaited horse models that I am looking at. From what I have read a really good pad is a must with a treeless.

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I have a treeless and I love it for conditioning and such. I also love it because they are basically really fancy bareback pads. If you do not have the balance and aren't under the weight requirements for one, you shouldn't use one. The only reason I was so sold on them is because I would rather ride bareback then with a tree, but some of the conditions I ride in do call for a saddle. Now, don't get me wrong, I love my treeless, but I am a firm believer that even if you do have a treeless, you still need a fitted treed saddle. I like my treeless because I can use it in between fitness levels while my horse is coming back into work. Example: She foaled about 2 and a half months ago (holy crap where did that time go..?) and while before she foaled she had a wonderful amount of suppleness and a pretty good topline, that all went to hell after she foaled. Her topline currently looks like crap. So while I am trying to build up her topline I am using my treeless saddle because it will fit her no matter what. When she does come back into her fitness range, I will get her fitted for a saddle.

On the treeless again, as far as balance goes, you need to have impeccable balance to ride in one. If you don't have good balance, your seat will put undue pressure on the horses spine which we all know is not good.

However, I do LOVE my treeless, and my horse does too. She works well in it, and often seems nice and peppy and rarin to go in it! She has even taken a liking to jumping because of it :) If you do go treeless, talk to a dealer. The dealer I used corresponded with me for about 2 months and was so helpful that I am thankful for her! I still email her today and speak with her. She will go out of her way, contacting the company CEO to find things out for you. Her name is Paulita Neff, and here is a link to her business website -->Saddle Up Treeless Saddles for Trail, Endurance, Competitive Distance Trail, Dressage, and Jumping

I have a Freeform saddle, and I went with the cheapest one I could because they are EXPENSIVE. I wanted the Freeform Wave or the EnduroX, but went with the classic in suede because it was in my price range. You have an option of returning a saddle purchased with Paulita if you do not like it. I actually fell in love with the Barefoot saddles more then the Freeform, and I still like the look of Barefoot saddles (they look kind of rustic and I like that), but the Freeform is like the Cadillac of treeless saddles. It is the top of the line. Made in Italy, professionally designed, and they look so good on the horse! I know that the last point isn't a reason to buy but it's true lol

I hope I helped a little with your saddle conundrum dear! PM me for any other info or questions, although I do recommend speaking with Paulita for detailed information :)
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post #27 of 28 Old 06-08-2012, 11:24 AM Thread Starter
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Yes you are correct as far as pads go. I use a HAF pad with mine. They aren't very pretty, but they get the job done which is important! I actually think I am just going to make a slip cover pad for mine to add some color to it :) To the fabric store!

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post #28 of 28 Old 06-08-2012, 11:55 AM
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I'm not a fan of the "treeless" saddle. I've yet to see one that effectively distributed a rider's weight. I've sat/tried a half dozen or more (including the Ansur, Bob Marshall, and some "no name" brands). All failed in that regard.

As with all things, YMMV.

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