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  • Heavy shoes on back twh
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    04-29-2011, 02:10 PM
  #11
Weanling
GREAT back end!
You can never get a good front end on a horse without a solid back, and your boy has nice overstride :)

I've never heard of shoes just on the front to help with pacing, although it does make sense when you think about it as they puit a heavier shoe on the front than the back for shows, so just shoes on the front and not the back would have a similar effect.
     
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    04-29-2011, 08:50 PM
  #12
Weanling
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Originally Posted by kstinson    
GREAT back end!
You can never get a good front end on a horse without a solid back, and your boy has nice overstride :)

I've never heard of shoes just on the front to help with pacing, although it does make sense when you think about it as they puit a heavier shoe on the front than the back for shows, so just shoes on the front and not the back would have a similar effect.

Me either but had the same thought when they suggested it to me.Lighter in the back and heavy in the front just like when you pad them up.And since he is just my pleasure horse it couldn't hurt.And it would be a bit cheaper ad that's always a good thing.Thanks for the compliments on him.I am very proud.Always been around walkers growing up.Owned a walker as a trail horse as a kid.Never owned one this nice and he's only 6 so we have a lot of growing to do with each other..Ive only had him 2 months so he is still so new to me
     
    04-30-2011, 01:14 PM
  #13
Foal
I don't know, if you keep him working like that he isn't pacing. He seems to be squaring up well. Why would you wnat to mess with it if he is just for pleasure & trail? Soundness would be my chief concern.
     
    05-01-2011, 03:07 AM
  #14
Yearling
That is a nice running walk. Does he have weighted shoes on there?

Front shoes only will certainly help a pacy horse by squaring him up a tad, but if that is how your horse goes typically, it doesnt look like you can a pacy problem lol..

Think of a gaited horses gaits as a line. On one end of this line is the hard pace and on the other end is the trot. In the middle of the line are all other gaits - from the stepping pace to the rack, foxtrot etc. All horses in the world fall somewhere on this line. Gaited horses are not so stuck to one side or the other and are more flexable as to what they can be conditioned to perform. Gait can be influenced along this line by changing the breakover, flight and timing of the foot. Also important and more important to me are conditioning, suppling and basic overall strength. A fit, supple horse will perform a better gait than a horse that has been "shod" to gait. Make sense?

Now....

The generic principle of gaited tweeking with shoes is, weight up front will square them up (bring them further away from pace and more towards the trot) , weight behind will add more swing (take them away from trot and move them closer to pace)

It is easier to square a horse up than add swing generally. This is why all the big lick TWHs tend to be pacy. ITs easier to add weight to the pads on the front than the trailers.

I recommend checking out Larry Whitesell and check out his gaited horse video set. He is a superb gaited trainer and produces a naturally nice gaited animal. I ride and show all my gaited horses barefoot. :) I also canter my horses. There is no reason a gaited horse cannot canter. Just make sure you only allow it when you cue/ask for it.
     
    05-02-2011, 09:41 AM
  #15
Weanling
Diegosmom: just a note, I was at the Mane Event this weekend (alberta breed and equine expo) one of the TWH at the show step paces a lot, they had shoes on the front and not on the back. My thoughts are that your farrier was on the right track, the horse was still step pacing lol, but when she got him into rhythm he started to use square up, so likely he is worse without them.

Your boy moves pretty well though, I think more than anything it is just correcting him when he goes out and collecting him that will make him consistent. My mare cruises but occassionally slips, she's young and I just correct her collect her and we move on.
     
    05-02-2011, 05:10 PM
  #16
Yearling
If a horse is shod correctly the shoe is generally "transparent," meaning it protects the foot from excessive wear but does not influence way of going. Some very few horses are affected by shoes, but it's mostly likely that they have sensitive feet and feel more comfortable and confident in the shoes (and in the protection that the shoe offers).

Again, you square up a horse by riding it correctly for that horse and discilpline. Using a shoe or a device or a contrivance (like an "artificial" trim) to get the horse to square up gets the human traveling down the "slipery slope."

G.
     
    05-02-2011, 05:29 PM
  #17
Weanling
G, you're exactly right, a horse should move correctly because the rider is riding it correctly. Some people (like the individual at the expo) go to alternative methods for their own reasons...not sure how to fix/train, don't want to take the time, or think they are correcting the problem the right way.

Myself, we do everything natural at our barn. We have 4 shoes on our horses -just plain old regular shoes to protect her feet on trails. But in the winters we just work barefoot in the arena learning to correct the horse and make them walk properly naturally.

There are excersizes you can do with your horse to aid in their walking ability (pacing them out, hills, trails...etc), everyone has their own opinions on what is right and what works, and with different opinions comes the fact every horse is different. You'll have to work through it and find what works best for you, but like I said, the idea with the shoes on the front and not the back is to stop pacing but I don't think your boy needs pads, heavier shoes, or shoes on just the front. Just corrections when he goes out, working on your blanace (as that is huge in this breed) and also they need to build the muscles and know what gait you want them to be in ...training really. It's a joint effort on horse and rider :) and he definitely has the talent to get consistent with his movement!
     
    05-02-2011, 09:48 PM
  #18
Weanling
The reason he looks ok there is we are going up hill. I have been doing nothing but taking him into his gaits up hill for the last month. Have him in an arena or flat area and he paces. I'm not doing anything with this horse but have fun but I want him to be what he is supposed to be. And keep him there he is a very good horse and very young so I have alot of potential to do what ever I want. He is shod now but nothing weighted. I will give the fronts a try. I really would like for him to go bear foot just because I'm a just one of those bearfoot fans. But I don't want him to lose all the progress I have made. I bought him fro trainers and since I've gotten him he has doubled his progress from what I saw at the fancy training facility so I know I'm on the right track.
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    05-02-2011, 09:56 PM
  #19
Weanling
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Originally Posted by kstinson    
G, you're exactly right, a horse should move correctly because the rider is riding it correctly. Some people (like the individual at the expo) go to alternative methods for their own reasons...not sure how to fix/train, don't want to take the time, or think they are correcting the problem the right way.

Myself, we do everything natural at our barn. We have 4 shoes on our horses -just plain old regular shoes to protect her feet on trails. But in the winters we just work barefoot in the arena learning to correct the horse and make them walk properly naturally.

There are excersizes you can do with your horse to aid in their walking ability (pacing them out, hills, trails...etc), everyone has their own opinions on what is right and what works, and with different opinions comes the fact every horse is different. You'll have to work through it and find what works best for you, but like I said, the idea with the shoes on the front and not the back is to stop pacing but I don't think your boy needs pads, heavier shoes, or shoes on just the front. Just corrections when he goes out, working on your blanace (as that is huge in this breed) and also they need to build the muscles and know what gait you want them to be in ...training really. It's a joint effort on horse and rider :) and he definitely has the talent to get consistent with his movement!

All that makes perfect since I just really don't know enough to know if I have him in the right gait by riding and not seeing.Thats why all my videos are of other people riding him.I have a few of me but none quality enough to show.Thats why im hoping the front only shoes make such a difference I can tell .Does that make since.My mom gets on him and knows for sure just n=by the feel on what he is doing.I get on him and it all feels kinda the same to me for the most part..I can really tell he's pacing sometimes then other times im just not guite sure..I know he is smother then he was but not as smooth as I've felt on him so I really don't know.
     
    05-03-2011, 10:06 AM
  #20
Weanling
Heres the thing, when I first got my TWH, I had troube recognizing the gait because it was new to me. You're in the same boat there and that's okay. If your mom can feel the gait in the saddle, she can also see it from the ground.

When I first started training my mare to walk, I had my trainer (in your case, your mom) on the ground telling me when she was in and out so I would learn what the right feel was. If she will stand there and tell you you've got a huge advantage.

Another thing is the horse will be nodding their head/neck up and down in a 1,2,3,4 motion, if that is not happening in a consistent motion then they are not in gait. You can see it from the saddle if you watch. Count it out loud to yourself each nod and see if it is consistent when you say it.

That will help with knowing when he is out, at which point you can collect him, and if you have to slow him down a bit to get him into rhythm again that's okay, the main thing is to get him gaiting.

I would definitely utilize your moms knowledge and have her stand and watch and tell you when he is out.
     

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