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    09-24-2012, 07:19 PM
  #11
Green Broke
There's a special place in hell reserved for all of those people.
     
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    09-24-2012, 07:25 PM
  #12
Started
Convictions are public record.
     
    09-24-2012, 07:41 PM
  #13
Yearling
I knew this would happen. I'm sorry I have to say this, or that this is my opinion, but judges just don't have the balls to put men like this behind bars. A slap on the wrist, an easily paid fine, and they let them go with full permission to do it again.
     
    09-24-2012, 07:59 PM
  #14
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Copperhead    
I knew this would happen. I'm sorry I have to say this, or that this is my opinion, but judges just don't have the balls to put men like this behind bars. A slap on the wrist, an easily paid fine, and they let them go with full permission to do it again.

Which is why the animal loving voters need to fix this problem.
     
    09-24-2012, 08:09 PM
  #15
Foal
Yes this sentence if a farce but that being said to those who think the owners should also be prosecuted how would you feel if someone said you should be charged with animal abuse for sending a horse off to a trainer who uses abusive methods without knowing it? Yes you can do research request an on site tour and to view the training practices but the trainer can also lie and hide it...especially since the ones who are abusive are usually only in it for the money and will make you believe anything to get yours.

Please when considering something like this look at it objectively. Punishing people who only MIGHT have known can sometimes make things worse.

All together this man should have gone to prison especially since, if I remember right, he only became a trainer because the officials said he couldn't compete for some reason similar to this case.

As for the registry...there is a public sex offender list that you can even download an app for your phone that pins their homes. However I believe a list on every registry would be sufficient at least to start and keep the pressure on.

Something can be done about it however that something is hard and will take a long time. One person can wait for the world to change or one person can start by changing them-self first. We, the horse world, is not one person and while there will be those who think "who cares its just a piece of horse flesh and its my piece of horse flesh to do with as I please." and will fight it because they are shallow and don't like being told what to do. But as a community we can come together and try to find away to make it harder for abuse to be overlooked so easily. For our horses, our dog or cats and other animals we love.

A pit-bull is abused and hit and trained to be aggressive but who is punished the owner that abused them enough to behave that way or the dog. The dog is give the reputation of a bad creature and put down even if it has never been charged with an aggressive act.
     
    09-24-2012, 08:19 PM
  #16
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuala    
Yes this sentence if a farce but that being said to those who think the owners should also be prosecuted how would you feel if someone said you should be charged with animal abuse for sending a horse off to a trainer who uses abusive methods without knowing it? Yes you can do research request an on site tour and to view the training practices but the trainer can also lie and hide it...especially since the ones who are abusive are usually only in it for the money and will make you believe anything to get yours.

Please when considering something like this look at it objectively. Punishing people who only MIGHT have known can sometimes make things worse.

All together this man should have gone to prison especially since, if I remember right, he only became a trainer because the officials said he couldn't compete for some reason similar to this case.

As for the registry...there is a public sex offender list that you can even download an app for your phone that pins their homes. However I believe a list on every registry would be sufficient at least to start and keep the pressure on.

Something can be done about it however that something is hard and will take a long time. One person can wait for the world to change or one person can start by changing them-self first. We, the horse world, is not one person and while there will be those who think "who cares its just a piece of horse flesh and its my piece of horse flesh to do with as I please." and will fight it because they are shallow and don't like being told what to do. But as a community we can come together and try to find away to make it harder for abuse to be overlooked so easily. For our horses, our dog or cats and other animals we love.

A pit-bull is abused and hit and trained to be aggressive but who is punished the owner that abused them enough to behave that way or the dog. The dog is give the reputation of a bad creature and put down even if it has never been charged with an aggressive act.

The problem is anyone who owns a big lick and is active in the industry knows very well what is happening to their horse.

He has been a trainer for over 40 years. Not just recently.
     
    09-26-2012, 12:30 AM
  #17
Foal
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Originally Posted by Diegosmom    
The problem is anyone who owns a big lick and is active in the industry knows very well what is happening to their horse.

He has been a trainer for over 40 years. Not just recently.
But there are still good trainers and any trainer can say "oh yeah I know what I'm doing" even if you don't. Yes it is known that this happens in the horse world but it is also possible that the owners didnt know what extremes a trainer takes. Should there be some repercussions for them not looking into if farther before sending their horses there? Yes but maybe not prosecuted. They also have to live with the knowledge that now they have a ruined horse. Will it bother all of them? No, unfortunately. I had a friend that bought a 'dead broke, no vices, horses from a "respectable" trainer' that nearly killed her and himself when he freaked out because he got tied to a rail for five seconds.

However prosecuting the owners doesnt take away from the fact the guy with deep pockets is getting off with a slap on the wrist and is being allowed to continue working with horses.

Quite frankly I would like more facilities to be looked at. The barn I worked at, and had to eventually quite for the same reasons, would pen horses in stalls 24/7 because they would jump out of the pastures, didnt supply enough shavings to bed the stalls enough to keep the studs who had cankers hooves out of his own urine, came up with a new case of abscess or hoof rot every time I went out there, ridiculously undercut the pay, had exposed live electric wires next to the horses stall windows that were open and when the county animal control came out because their akitas ran off the property they put the akitas in a stall with no water or frozen water buckets. Yet even after walking around the property nothing happened.
     
    09-26-2012, 06:28 AM
  #18
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuala    
But there are still good trainers and any trainer can say "oh yeah I know what I'm doing" even if you don't. Yes it is known that this happens in the horse world but it is also possible that the owners didnt know what extremes a trainer takes. Should there be some repercussions for them not looking into if farther before sending their horses there? Yes but maybe not prosecuted. They also have to live with the knowledge that now they have a ruined horse. Will it bother all of them? No, unfortunately. I had a friend that bought a 'dead broke, no vices, horses from a "respectable" trainer' that nearly killed her and himself when he freaked out because he got tied to a rail for five seconds.

However prosecuting the owners doesnt take away from the fact the guy with deep pockets is getting off with a slap on the wrist and is being allowed to continue working with horses.

Quite frankly I would like more facilities to be looked at. The barn I worked at, and had to eventually quite for the same reasons, would pen horses in stalls 24/7 because they would jump out of the pastures, didnt supply enough shavings to bed the stalls enough to keep the studs who had cankers hooves out of his own urine, came up with a new case of abscess or hoof rot every time I went out there, ridiculously undercut the pay, had exposed live electric wires next to the horses stall windows that were open and when the county animal control came out because their akitas ran off the property they put the akitas in a stall with no water or frozen water buckets. Yet even after walking around the property nothing happened.

I am sorry, I don't give the "I didn't know" excuse much credit. If you have a horse and you chose a trainer, it is up to you to know what is happening to your horse. You also, need to find out what kind of a person you are putting your horse in with. You could be chosing Jack the Ripper. It isn't unlike chosing a baby sitter for your kids.

Also, news of THIS abuse is all over now. To say "I didn't know" is no longer legitimate. If you have this breed and you chose a trainer, then you know. If you don't, it is still your fault because you didn't care enough to protect your own horse. IMO

I would never toss my horse in with a trainer and just let them have full on access without me checking on the welfare of the horse. I don't know any responsible horse owners that would.
     
    09-27-2012, 01:25 PM
  #19
Yearling
We have registries for sex offenders, so why can't we have a registry for animal abusers? Animals are even more helpless than humans: they can't talk! Anyone who would abuse an animal is the lowest of the low.

It's not enough to just throw them in jail (as DIDN'T happen in this case!) they also should have to suffer what they hand out! No food or water...guess what they should have to eat? Soring?.. Let's see how their legs like it! They're too "reactive?" Bring on the boards.

Yes, I'm disgusted and not very nice. I'm sick of animal abusers getting off with a fine and/or probation. It's a public record...let's publicize their names!
I didn't read this article carefully enough. Was the judge appointed or was he an elected judge? It's time to stand up and say we aren't going to put up with this stuff one more minute! Not just for TWHs but for all animals.

If we can't get jail time for these "people" then maybe some public humiliation and shunning would help!
     
    09-27-2012, 01:31 PM
  #20
Yearling
I walked into a barn in Shelbyville last Friday to look at a TWH. There was a big sign in front saying "We support the TWH industry." Inside was a wall of chains hanging...and big blocks stacked up. I had to explain what they were used for to my husband. The horse was tempermentally exactly what I was looking for but there were other issues. We went home without him and I can't get him out of my mind.

After all this (I can't say the word I want) there are still trainers who support the industry....and still train for big lick.... What is it going to take to change these people???
     

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