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        08-06-2013, 04:52 PM
      #21
    Weanling
    Ugh there are a ton of Big Lick stables in my area. I actually visted one like 10 years ago and the horses were so gorgeous but the conditions their feet were in was disgusting. I never went back after that.
         
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        08-06-2013, 06:06 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    You wouldn't have gone far if you had tried riding with me in Colorado without shoes. This was not a "natural" habitat for horses and wouldn't have lasted there in the wild, most likely. It was shoes or go to flatter, less beautiful terrain......

    So, it all depends on the horse's needs. OOOPS, back to topic.....Stacks wouldn't work here, either. And, the soring would come naturally if they tried to walk those ring puffs on this terrain.
    Well Allison, believe it or not, there's quite a few rock in the southern Appalachians.

    Actually, I ride in renegade hoof boots and they work wonderfully.

    My wife has two quarter horses and while one is fine barefooted and in boots, the other one is probably going back to shoes.

    Now, I'm waiting for the invite next time....great country and I'd love to give Miss Lacy a try out there....
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        08-06-2013, 06:19 PM
      #23
    Super Moderator
    Gunslinger, I'd like to be educated as well.

    You mentioned you keep your TWH barefoot. Is she trimmed the "regular" way? Just meaning, does her hoof look the same as, say, a QH's hoof and not naturally stacked?

    Inquiring minds want to know.
         
        08-06-2013, 06:37 PM
      #24
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    Inga, I don't understand the definition of "flat shod" if those horses are examples. There is nothing flat of natural about how those horses are shod. Long hooves to the extreme. Maybe no "stacks" but definitely not normal horse hoof shaping. Better? Yes. Normal and kind? Not yet. Keep going.......

    To me, flat shod would be normal weight flat shoes with a normal trim, not letting the hoof grow into a "natural stack".
    Well Rome wasn't built in a day. To someone who says "the flat shod horses are too boring to watch" I say "not even close" The horses in the video are without pads/stacks, they have a plate/keg shoe. Yes, some have longer feet but the movement of the horses is WAY more natural then that of the stacked/sored horses in the Big lick. One step at a time. The flat shod horses are likely far more comfortable too. I wish people could see that and fight for that at least, rather then continuing to support chemical soring and stacks.
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        08-06-2013, 06:39 PM
      #25
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    Originally Posted by Jake and Dai    
    gunslinger, I'd like to be educated as well.

    You mentioned you keep your TWH barefoot. Is she trimmed the "regular" way? Just meaning, does her hoof look the same as, say, a QH's hoof and not naturally stacked?

    Inquiring minds want to know.
    I apologize for speaking ahead/out of turn of Gunslinger BUT:

    All three of my TWH's are trimmed according to what their hooves require by birth NOT because their papers say they are Tennessee Walkers.

    When I was trail riding in the wilds like Gunslinger still does, I had two TWH's.

    The TWH with a less-than-Grade-1 club hoof has such tough hooves, he remained barefoot (no boots) but to be honest, I didn't put near the hours on him that I did the other TWH. Nonetheless, I could take him up in the rock hills 3 - 4 hours and he would come back with perfect (no chips) hooves and never lame.

    There were a few times I put shoes on him, if I wasn't sure just how much rock we had to ride in but he's been with me 16-1/2 of his 19 years and he has never come up lame.

    The other TWH wore St. Croix rim shoes. No kegs - not ever. For all intents and purposes, yes, you could say he wore Quarter Horse shoes and got his hooves trimmed that way.

    The reality was he got his hooves trimmed the way he needed them trimmed because he's a horse first; breed doesn't matter when it comes to the hooves, as far as I'm concerned.

    Then I put those "d**n Quarter Horse shoes" on him, as some TWH folks liked to call them
         
        08-06-2013, 06:41 PM
      #26
    Trained
    ANYBODY who has ridden a TWH Plantation gait wonders why any of this was ever sanctioned.
    GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH!!!!!!!!!!
         
        08-06-2013, 06:46 PM
      #27
    Super Moderator
    Thanks walkinthewalk!
         
        08-06-2013, 06:48 PM
      #28
    Showing
    I can't help but wonder if the big lick competitors will just head for smaller shows hoping the inspectors will be busy with the the large shows. Being banned from horse ownership doesn't stop O'Connell from training.
         
        08-06-2013, 07:46 PM
      #29
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jake and Dai    
    gunslinger, I'd like to be educated as well.

    You mentioned you keep your TWH barefoot. Is she trimmed the "regular" way? Just meaning, does her hoof look the same as, say, a QH's hoof and not naturally stacked?

    Inquiring minds want to know.
    My farrier is a QH guy....like a co-op barber, I think he only knows one type of trim. I usually roll the hoof a little after he leaves, and in between trims.

    Miss Lacy's chiropractor is a gaited horse man, his daughter shows somewhere every weekend, flat shod. He's telling me he thinks she needs a little more toe length....As my wife rides a QH, my problem is getting a slow enough dog walk....
         
        08-06-2013, 07:49 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    I can't help but wonder if the big lick competitors will just head for smaller shows hoping the inspectors will be busy with the the large shows. Being banned from horse ownership doesn't stop O'Connell from training.
    I think, in order to get in the Celebration, you have to have shown and placed in other shows....not sure just exactly what the qualifing involves, but I'm pretty sure you don't just show up and ride.

    Either way, I hope the threat of a felony keeps them from soring....
         

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