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post #1 of 23 Old 07-07-2014, 01:03 AM Thread Starter
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My TWH Mare's conformation/weight?

Hey! So, I a few months ago the owner that had the TWH mare that I was sponsoring could no longer keep her due to having too many horses, and thought it would be best for her if she could go to a home where she would have the attention/care she needs, so she gave her to me! Her name is Jubilee. Jubilee has champion bloodlines (She's related to World Grand Champion, Midnight Sun), but the reason she was given to a sanctuary was because her original owner said she wasn't any good after her right eye started developing a slight cataract, (Even though, oddly enough, it seems as if it's healing - plus it doesn't bother her at all).

Anyway, when I first got her (a few months ago) she was underweight but she's been doing so much better now that I've been able to focus on her, and give her the care and attention she needs.

So, here are some pictures of her! (Tell me if they're not working ) Do y'all think she needs to gain more weight? What is the best diet for a horse that needs a little more weight of her? Plus, I'd love to know how her correct her conformation is.

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post #2 of 23 Old 07-07-2014, 01:25 AM
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post #3 of 23 Old 07-07-2014, 07:40 AM
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Being new to Walking Horses, you don't know that 99% of Tennessee Walking Horses are related to Midnight Sun. The "Chance" blood line was the only one that did not have Midnight Sun in it

That means, it is an accepted fact there pretty much is not a Walking Horse on the planet that isn't traceable to Midnight Sun

Your mare's bragging rights are Pride's Jubilee Star and Pride's Jubilee Encore

Pride of Midnight was sired by Midnight Sun. Pride of Midnight was Encore's Grandsire. Pride of Midnight is also the Grandsire to the horse in my avatar, who is now 26+ except my horse was sired by Pride's Genious, making my horse (Bonafide Genious) and Encore cousins who look absolutely nothing alike- my fella took after his dam --lollol My horse didn't "make", went to auction, and I bought him as a coming 3 yr old. He's been the absolute best and most fearless go-anywhere horse I have been privileged to bridle up

If you Google "Pride's Jubilee Encore", he is most likely your mare's grand or great-grandsire, depending how old she is. He won the WGC on 2001 when he was ten years old. Encore ended up being a "home boy", so his winning was a huge deal to the local folks.

I have three Tennessee Walkers, all from different blood lines, if one is looking at the most recent generations. Every one of them are gentle, willing and hard working trail horses. Well they were, they are all retired because I can't ride anymore and the youngest is 19 with severe insulin resistance.


That reminds me, don't let your mare put on too much weight. Keep her "race horse thin" where you can see her ribs when she moves a certain way. Tennessee Walkers are very prone to insulin resistance

Your pictures didn't post, hopefully you can re-link them so we can see her
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post #4 of 23 Old 07-07-2014, 01:35 PM Thread Starter
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Oh, okay! I'll try and fix the pictures so they work.

@WalkintheWalk, thanks for the info! I needed to know that. The lady who gave her to me mainly told me about Midnight Sun, hahaha, so I didn't look in to the other TWH in her pedigree as much! But I did search up Pride's Jubilee Star, and Ebony MasterPiece who were World Grand Champions, which I think is neat. Pride's Jubilee Star is her grandsire, and Ebony Masterpiece is her grandsire on her dam's side, Jubilee turned 11 back in January. Do you know much about Ebony Masterpiece?

(I attached some images to this post, they should show up )

I think her weight right now isn't that bad, she just seems like she may need more muscle on her, or what not. She looks so much better than she did awhile bad though, she used to be pretty badly underweight.
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Well my goodness -- what a beauty and she looks to have "real" hooves, meaning they are nice and big, if she's not over due for a trim

She is a very gentle-eyed horse

She is a high-hipped horse and that can be typical of having some Generator blood; "can be" being the operative.

My 20 yr old Generator-bred horse also has Ebony's Masterpiece for a grandsire on his bottom side. I have been told that stallion had a wonderful disposition but evidently my horse didn't get his disposition gene - lollol

She might stand to gain 20 30 more pounds going into winter but, IMHO that's about it. Those high hips won't completely disappear unless the rest of her is overweight.

She's probably a horse that will drop weight easily, if she's ridden much, so you may have to up her feed (no sweet feed) if you ride her a lot. I used to joke that my Generator horse would drop 20 pounds the moment I pointed him to the horse trailer and said "get up in there" lollollol

EDITED TO ADD: Great Scott, she's a Tall Drink of Water! She's well over 16H isn't she? My Generator-bred with Ebony's Masterpiece on the bottom is my tallest TWH at 16.1H and Jubilee looks to be taller than he is.

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Being new to Walking Horses, you don't know that 99% of Tennessee Walking Horses are related to Midnight Sun. The "Chance" blood line was the only one that did not have Midnight Sun in it

That means, it is an accepted fact there pretty much is not a Walking Horse on the planet that isn't traceable to Midnight Sun

Your mare's bragging rights are Pride's Jubilee Star and Pride's Jubilee Encore

Pride of Midnight was sired by Midnight Sun. Pride of Midnight was Encore's Grandsire. Pride of Midnight is also the Grandsire to the horse in my avatar, who is now 26+ except my horse was sired by Pride's Genious, making my horse (Bonafide Genious) and Encore cousins who look absolutely nothing alike- my fella took after his dam --lollol My horse didn't "make", went to auction, and I bought him as a coming 3 yr old. He's been the absolute best and most fearless go-anywhere horse I have been privileged to bridle up

If you Google "Pride's Jubilee Encore", he is most likely your mare's grand or great-grandsire, depending how old she is. He won the WGC on 2001 when he was ten years old. Encore ended up being a "home boy", so his winning was a huge deal to the local folks.

I have three Tennessee Walkers, all from different blood lines, if one is looking at the most recent generations. Every one of them are gentle, willing and hard working trail horses. Well they were, they are all retired because I can't ride anymore and the youngest is 19 with severe insulin resistance.


That reminds me, don't let your mare put on too much weight. Keep her "race horse thin" where you can see her ribs when she moves a certain way. Tennessee Walkers are very prone to insulin resistance

Your pictures didn't post, hopefully you can re-link them so we can see her
Interesting read, thanks for the info! Haha

You didn't say how Star was related.

(My Arab is also "Desperado", no relation :P)
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She's a beauty! I think she looks just fine at the weight she's at....

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Congrats on your pretty mare! I love a nice black Walking Horse :) And the pink on her nose is too cute! I also really like her feet (and I like seeing normal looking toes vs longer ones on Walkers).

With Midnight Sun, walkinthewalk is right, of course. Almost every TWH has him in their pedigree somewhere. But he was an amazing horse, so it's all good. My 2-year-old is his great-grandson. Some people were just talking about "Sunless" horses in one of my FB horse groups yesterday after someone posted a photo of his Sunless mare.

I honestly have nothing of value to add, just wanted to say that she's beautiful and enjoyed learning a little about the Jubilee and Masterpiece lines. Congrats, again!
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with the way her neck and back look she has been ridden inverted for some time. Hopefully you can ride her more rounded and her shape will improve.
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post #10 of 23 Old 07-07-2014, 05:32 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks y'all!

Yeah! She doesn't need horseshoes at the moment since her natural hooves are doing really well.

I actually don't know if she has any Generator blood in her or not, I didn't see any with the name in her pedigree. Other World Grand Champions in her pedigree (other than Midnight Sun, Star, and Masterpiece) she has Go Boy's Shadow and Sun's Delight.

Oh yes, she does tend to shift weight easily, I believe! I know that when she was at her old home she became skinny fast, and when I got her she easily put on weight.

She is a big girl! Everyone who sees her immediately points out how tall she is. But what's funny is I guess she tends to look much bigger than she really is, since when I measured her she was only at 15.2 hands. I'm thinking because of her high hips, and long legs she makes herself look taller than she is, she naturally holds her head up high as well.

Yeah, @chumrumbeque that's one thing I want to work with her on, she hasn't been ridden much at all recently. In her last home she wasn't ridden much, and when I got her I was focusing on getting weight put on her, and getting her health back in check. But hopefully I can focus on riding her soon.
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