08-07-2010, 03:26 PM
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Hey WalkInThe Walk..... I sure like your approach and believe in getting through to the horses head and heart first and foremost. If anyone should giggle at your approach of massaging the horses and using communicating telepathically......then they don't know how horses communicate with each other. They don't use verbal language,they use their instincts and horse language along with their entire body to communicate. That's my lame way of explaining how horses communicate....Tom Dorrance, Pat Parelli and others can explain it much better.
Look at the time these people I just mentioned put into their horses from the time they are born until they actually get on and ride that horse!!! Year of Love, Language and Leadership and learning about each horse individually.
Not the way this Paso was raised. It was brutal. Poor boy wasn't born to pin his ears and hate when people approach him, he learned that behavior because of what was being done to him hourly, day to day, week to week, month to month. When we bought this farm, the ribbons were plastered all over the entire walls of the foyer, kitchen and living room along with wall placks and trophies. This horse did so much to give the human what she wanted, but she wanted it in a hurry so allowed him to be trained brutally to get the results immediately.
I know he was run around the pole in the center of the round pen and repeatedly trip with ropes. So I'm sure that's part of the reason why he's so fearful of the ropes...he doesn't trust them.
The last thing I would do is tie this horse to a tree and run a hose or rope by him!!!! My god...what a way to set him up for failure!!! That's some of the brutal tactics that were done to him!!! Don't give him any options but to stand their and face the fear instead of taking the time to teach him his fears no longer have to be living inside of him.....I don't know who the guy is in the video, but I had to laugh because he kept saying "look, he's learning, he's learning!"....That horse looked to me as though he was wondering what the heck those guys were doing out their walking back and forth with a hose. He kept putting his head down and eating. Didn't seem to care....I couldn't see where they were "teaching" him anything, but forcing him to stand tethered to a pole.
If that would have been my horse, that telephone pole would have been down, I would have a very injured horse and if I'm stretching my opinions at all....then in the very least, he would have froze up and went inside himself and just stood there and quivered.....yes....I know that's what they do to "sack out horses"....But that is not my philosophy of communicating to any animal.
I do appreciate you sending me the video, Fifty and for your thoughts.
We bought this farm that happened to have 8 Paso's boarding here almost a year ago. One couple moved from our boarding facility and purchased her own farm and took her horses of course. They had purchased this Paso I'm talking about from the previous owner of the farm, per their description of what a bomb proof horse he was...Just get on and ride. Yes...that's true, once you do to him as he's been taught for so many years....force him into a stall....( He's now able to enjoy pastures as we don't leave him in a stall/ anymore ).... then take go through the steps of forcing the halter on, during all of this, his eyes are big and round showing obvious fear. When he's haltered....His whole body is tense and nervous.
Ground work with this horse was non-existent, so he's fearful of what is being asked and not sure of what one wants. So after a few months of trying to get through to this horse, this couple called us and asked us to take him. We couldn't say no as I didn't want him with another Paso Owner who might share the same training techniques as was done to him on this farm.
There was absolutely no bonding done to this horse. He has no clue.
Our mistake in purchasing him last January was giving him his freedom out to pastures with his old buddy who was also turned out to freedom in pastures as opposed to stall confinement. We let him alone except for feedings and working on approaching him and then brushing, scratching, some riding, but mostly wanted him to have his freedom.
He's had to much of that....our mistake.
I will definitely work on his issues and report on how things go.
Walk......I'm sorry about your abused Arab. Good thing she found you!!