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    08-28-2013, 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by greentree    
Are you sure it is not a pace? Pace is smooth at slow speeds, but rough when it gets faster, and 20 mph is pretty dang fast!!


I thought it was the other way around. In Icelandic horses, pacing at slow speed is considered the worst fault because it's rough. Pacing is only used for racing.
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    08-28-2013, 09:48 PM
Green Broke
When they are pacing and start approaching top end the gait smooths out again. It isn't bad riding a flat out pace. Getting there might roll your brains out. Slowing back down is the worst.

Lots of long low hills if you have it. Or just long... Hold her at the speed where her legs are all doing the right gait. Condition her at a speed she can hold. Over time ask for more speed, when she breaks gait slow her back down and ask again. Be consistent.

The bit isn't going to matter and a harsh twisted wire snaffle is just going to give harsh brakes. Mine gaited nice in a rubber d-ring or a bosal that was covered in fleece. Which I used just depended on my whim. Mostly it was the bosal. I had plenty of control so didn't bother with anything harsher.

When we (the mare and I) were learning our gaits it did seem she needed to lean into the bit or bosal a tad to get her balance. Once she got her groove going I could ride with a loose rein. As she aged she got into the habit of popping her bottom lip in time with her footfalls. My husband said we sounded like a corn popper coming down the road.
    08-28-2013, 11:50 PM
Contrary to popular believe, a pace can be smooth, very smooth. Especially, at high speed.

If she has speed, natural speed, it does not take a lot of conditioning to get up to speed. You don't want to over do it, but if, they are natural, they can get in the 20 mph hour range with very little conditioning for those speeds. The mistake a lot of folks make with these horses is they attempt the get them going with their noses tucked. Most of them with natural speed do much better with the nose in the air.

If they do not have the desire for speed, it is a long, almost impossible job of training them to have speed. And training them to have speed can be very dangerous. When you start forcing the issue, wrecks happen. A wreck over 20 mph is no picnic.
    08-29-2013, 10:52 PM
I've ridden the pace at racing speeds and yes it smooths out some but nowhere near enough to say it's a preferred riding gait. You still get that sidewinder action it is just not as prevalent at 35 mph. We race in jockey position (or at least a longer 2 point/jumping position) and the trot is normally the preferred gait for RUS although pacers will pop up for that odd race or two.
    08-29-2013, 11:07 PM
Green Broke
My old STB was a free legged pacer and I agree the pace wasn't the gait of choice for riding. Took me a bit to get her to rack. I rarely opened her up to top speed.

Precious is the face of your non riding husband when he miscues the horse and she trips into racing mode. Wish they made digital cameras back then.
    09-04-2013, 08:54 AM
I am not interested in getting her to pace. In fact I don't want her to pace. I want her to singlefoot which she does well but when she gets fast she starts to get a hop in the rear like she's running. I guess Im just going to have to keep trying different things until I figure out why she is doing this. Thanks again for all the help. I am still open to more suggestions.
    09-04-2013, 09:08 AM
Originally Posted by jeffj6609    
I am not interested in getting her to pace. In fact I don't want her to pace. I want her to singlefoot which she does well but when she gets fast she starts to get a hop in the rear like she's running. I guess Im just going to have to keep trying different things until I figure out why she is doing this. Thanks again for all the help. I am still open to more suggestions.
Every gaited horse, no matter their way of going, has a speed range where they are in correct form for the gait being performed. If you over-ride that form by asking for too much speed it is common to loose the "smooth" factor.

Some have a wider range than others, but all have it. The rider can expand the range by some amount by ensuring that the horse is strong and fit. Still, not every horse will be a speed racer.

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    09-04-2013, 11:23 AM
Green Broke
I mention the pace only because it means the other gears are probably in there too. Just have to work at it more to bring them out.

Keep working at the speed where she gaits well. Over and over and over until it becomes second nature then ask for little more speed.
    09-13-2013, 07:59 PM
I would take her on the road and increase speed slowly to Hear if she's 4 beating. When the timing of the hoof beats is not evenly spaced, that's the limit of her ability right now. Practice at slower speeds and a true even 4 beat and let her get that muscle memory.
    09-13-2013, 11:03 PM
If she is skipping behind check out those stifles, usually when a pacer gets skippy behind it is the stifles/hip area that is sore.

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