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post #1 of 45 Old 09-21-2013, 05:58 PM Thread Starter
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Potentially Good News For TWHs?

I was looking in the September edition of Horse and Rider and I saw this quote.

"'We can't hide any longer. It is clear to me that our past has finally caught up with us, and the image currently conveyed by our performance horse is no longer accepted in 2013.' - Tracy Boyd, president of the Tennessee Walking Horse Breeders and Exhibitors Association, in an open letter May 27 supporting legislation to forbid the use of padded shoes and action devices, and increase penalties for soring."

"And somewhere in the northwoods darkness a creature walks upright. And the best advice you may ever get is: Don't go out at night..."
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post #2 of 45 Old 09-21-2013, 06:32 PM
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I saw the same quote and grinned a little, and am a bit hopeful. But until everyone who trains, owns, judges, rides TWH, buys into the change and puts an end to soring, padded shoes, and action devices I don't think change will happen very fast.
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It's not pads and action devices that are the problem. It's stacking pads until there's an unnatural angle and using action devices maliciously that are the problem. Hopefully USEF will be able to protect their saddleseat breeds from ignorant, blanket legislation.

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The central problem is pursuit of a certain way of going. The the pads, stacks, chains, etc. are the route choosen to attain that way of going. Frankly, I'm satisified that over the long haul they have significant negative long term (and short term) consequences for the horse. In short, they are "short cuts" and not the sign of training ability.

As with all things, YMMV.

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I understand the use of pads on a horse and also bungees because I used to work with Saddlebreds and Morgans, but I really do have a problem with the stacked pads that are most often seen.

I think that by eliminating the pads in the TWH arenas that it would be most beneficial for the horses.
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Used correctly, shoeing, chains, stretchies, etc help enhance natural ability. Same as people exercising with 2lb dumbbells or using resistance bands.The conformation and talent has to be there first. There is no long term harm if the horse is conditioned properly. It is up to the TWH people to govern themselves, not get the federal government involved. All that will do is restrict everyone else.

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We have a major disagreement on the efficacy of "action devices." I consider them the the epitome of training incompetance. Others obviously disagree.

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Those pads and chains and stacks need to go for all the breeds but the Walking horse has it by far the worst. Got to to start somewhere. May as be where it's the worst.

They tried to let the Walking horse industry govern themselves. It obviously didn't work.
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post #9 of 45 Old 09-23-2013, 03:36 AM
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It is up to the TWH people to govern themselves, not get the federal government involved. All that will do is restrict everyone else.
Well that didn't happen; which is why the Federal government got involved back in 1970. More than 40 years later there's still a problem. This problem will never fix itself. Taxpayers pay for the USDA to enforce the law and I don't think the taxpayers should foot the bill for ANY of it.

The fastest way to stop soring is to make the people who show padded performance horses take on ALL financial responsibility for enforcing the law. That means the TWHBEA, NWHA, whoever, pays for the inspectors, the testing equipment, the travel expenses, setup, anything and everything needed to enforce the HPA. Hitting these folks in the pocketbook is the only thing they understand. Once that happens this stuff will come screeching to a halt.
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The chains are supposed to be no more than 6oz, but they look more than that to me. Is weighing them part of inspection? Also it is my understanding that they are of no use unless the horse has been sored.
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