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post #11 of 35 Old 04-17-2009, 07:09 PM
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I just can't understand why we just can't be happy with what our horses does naturally..
(We = humans)


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post #12 of 35 Old 04-18-2009, 10:32 PM
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I guess one of my big issues with big lick showing is that, if a Walker cannot gait naturally, it can still be "trained" to gait with artificial means - whether they're legal, like pads, chains, whatever...or illegal ones like soring - which seems like it could cause a potential breeding out of natural gaiting. If a TWH can't gait naturally from birth (which it technically should be able to do), it can theoretically be "trained" into the horse. This could potentially ruin the breed, IMO. Not to mention that I find "big lick" gaits preposterous-looking. I'm not trying to be incendiary or offensive with that, that's just my personal preference.
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post #13 of 35 Old 04-19-2009, 12:05 AM
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I agree with you 100%. Today people are breeding anything together to get a WGC. As long as the horse has a well known name on their papers...it doesn't matter how good it moves.

The "big lick" ....thing, is nothing but a man made gait.

IMO, the big shoes, and chains should be illegal.
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I had no idea!! we don't have amny gaited horse shows in Australia and I've never seen such an exagerated gait before. the only gaited horse I have seen was a saddlebred doing the rack. Gosh those poor animals, some people are just dispicable. I feel like putting mustard oil and chains around their ankles and seeing how they like it. That stupid woman "does your bracelet hurt you" grrr.

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post #15 of 35 Old 04-19-2009, 12:19 PM
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I had no idea!! we don't have amny gaited horse shows in Australia and I've never seen such an exagerated gait before. the only gaited horse I have seen was a saddlebred doing the rack. Gosh those poor animals, some people are just dispicable. I feel like putting mustard oil and chains around their ankles and seeing how they like it. That stupid woman "does your bracelet hurt you" grrr.
Exactly.. Sure horses weigh much, but have you looked at their legs? Long, very slim and already busy keeping that weight up.. how does a long, slim stick behave with a thick chain around it if you move the stick around in a higher speed? Does it really matter if it's connected to a huge, heavy ball in one end as long as it still can move around?
And is the skin on the pastens less sensetive because the horse is heavy? It's thin skin against bonestructure..


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^ Good point Zab...pretty much the point that I was going to make, but you summed it up.

Again, I'm not trying to bash performance show people...It's just that I'm a little (a lot) skeptical about aspects of it. I think there are people in the world of performance horse showing who really want to change things...but come on, the "bracelet" metaphor is a little silly. If it's just like a woman wearing a small watch or bracelet, why do you need them at all? Seems like they would be completely ineffective to create that action...I know that when I wear an ankle bracelet, I don't hop around all day, lifting my knees up really high. ;)
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post #17 of 35 Old 04-19-2009, 12:51 PM
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I know that when I wear an ankle bracelet, I don't hop around all day, lifting my knees up really high. ;)
OMG YOU DON'T!!!!????? :O :O :O
Something be very, very wrong with you... O__O


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LoL, I know Zab...I'm just not cut out for performance gaiting. ;)
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About the chains, yes they are just like a bracelet. Their purpose is for the horse to try and step out of them. You see the same affect as a horse trotting through snow, or tall grass. They also affect the timing of the horse.

I myself have worn some of ours. The only time they hurt was when it got jammed between my ankle and my shoe.

The chain itself does not hurt the horse. It is when you put inflamatory salves and oils and other crap to make the area sensitive that hurts the horse.

Of course YOU are not going to step like that. Comparing horses to humans is like comparing a duck and a tree.
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i dont know that i necessairly have any problems with the chains but i do have to agree that the big lick gaits are truely ugly. and the most uncomfrotable thing to ride. my ex used to put me on his horses to exercise them and the plantation horses were fun but the big licks hurt my back and i didn't like the gait.

i totally agree with with you Zyabya the stacks should be illegal. i dont see any logical reason for their use IMO.
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