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post #21 of 35 Old 04-20-2009, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer View Post
Of course YOU are not going to step like that. Comparing horses to humans is like comparing a duck and a tree.
LoL, exactly. That was my point.

My TWBEA pamphlet doesn't explain it like you did just compares it to a woman's bracelet. I feel that that is a ludicrous comparison.
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post #22 of 35 Old 04-20-2009, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyDreamer View Post
About the chains, yes they are just like a bracelet. Their purpose is for the horse to try and step out of them. You see the same affect as a horse trotting through snow, or tall grass. They also affect the timing of the horse.

I myself have worn some of ours. The only time they hurt was when it got jammed between my ankle and my shoe.

The chain itself does not hurt the horse. It is when you put inflamatory salves and oils and other crap to make the area sensitive that hurts the horse.

Of course YOU are not going to step like that. Comparing horses to humans is like comparing a duck and a tree.
What about the people who use chains equivalent of a log chain? You don't suppose that would hurt? Or the people who leave those type of chains on for days at a time to sore the horse....therefore making those 6oz chains a little harsher than just a bracelet.

Besides that, the WHs gait is obviously not meant to have that type of action. If people are having to use chains to enhance the horses lift....that should be saying something.

Again, show me a walker moving like a big lick or even a lite shod horse on its own...with none of the gadgets/shoes/whatever...and I'll shut up.

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Racking Horses are also abused by soring.
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Good point, Racker. I just wrote a research paper specifically about soring of TWH, but I did come across some research that said rackers and other gaited horse breeds are sored, too.
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I live two hours away from Shelbyville and let me tell you there are plenty of people who do this crap! I am not for soring at all! I have been to horse auctions and my BO brother bought a TWH with pads on and came to find out in between that pad and hoof was a golf ball.....sigh...

But I can tell you now that chains dont hurt the horse. Imagin if you put weights on your feet(which I do alot when I work out).
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post #26 of 35 Old 04-27-2009, 07:46 PM
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But there is a differense.. even if the weights wouldn't damage the sensetive weightbalance in a horses leg (and let's pretend horses instictively know how to work with these devices without straining themselves in a bad way), you still have the added 'weight' from the gravity (centrifugal force in swedish) when the leg moves in these speeds.. plus it is a harsh, metal chain that gets slammed on sensetive skin over and over again. You try running as fast as you can for a mile with loose, heavy chains on bare feet and legs. If you still say it doesn't hurt I just might reconcider the horse issue..

And comparing the chains weight with the horses weight against humans weights etc.. it just doesn't work that way. For one.. the weight on us are divided very differently. For two, the horses body are a work of balance in a much different way than ours.. and.. size really doesn't matter that much in this case.

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post #27 of 35 Old 04-28-2009, 09:56 PM
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The chain itself is not an agent of soring. The chains do not hurt the horse unless A) they are excessively heavy. B) they are used in conjunction with an irritating subtance/chemical.

Heck, any liquid put on the leg will cause for more concussion, and potential for injury, because the protection and cusioning that the hair

Technically the horses do know how to work them as their intent is to make the horse attempt to step out of them, as they would do in snow or tall grass. That is the intended purpose of the chains and like with any tool, it can be used improperly. If it comes down to the chain hurting the horse, it is likely the LEAST of the pain that horse is going through.

The only chains that are SUPPOSED to hurt are kicking/pawing chains which are basically "self correction" devices, and I have seen people of every dicipline use these.

Humans and horses are built differently, think differently, react differently to everything. The "running barefoot for a mile" is a non-issue, for many different reasons. Most horse/human comparisons are nonissues, as the horse and the human cannot be compared as even remotely similar beings.
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post #28 of 35 Old 05-28-2009, 04:58 PM
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oh! soring = baaaaaaaaaad!!! the rub a chain against the ankle of the horse and put chemicales or gasoline or anything else similar. its TERRIBLE!!!
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Originally Posted by Zab View Post
Exactly.. Sure horses weigh much, but have you looked at their legs? Long, very slim and already busy keeping that weight up.. how does a long, slim stick behave with a thick chain around it if you move the stick around in a higher speed? Does it really matter if it's connected to a huge, heavy ball in one end as long as it still can move around?
And is the skin on the pastens less sensetive because the horse is heavy? It's thin skin against bonestructure..

i show my tn walker and i use chains and nothing else.i dont sore but she still has the exagareted gait of a tn walker.those chains arent hurting the horse.i use 6mm chains.ive tryed them on myself and they dont hurt me when i shake them around and the chains are slick and they slide around doesnt hurt the horse has the same gait even when the chains are shoes wiegh alot more than the chains.i read somewhere that only when the chains are over the legal limit that the chains will cause soreing if the chains are over 8 mm then it would cause discomfort.and i live in maryville tn and nobody sores around here.all the tn walkers are used around here is for trail riding.only the big name english riding stables use soreing and pads.i have a tn walker mare that im using for show and whats wrong that she has good bloodlines?she has gold coin collector,motowns magic,major league all star,etc. and she is still beautiful and she has a wonderful gait too.and she was not previously sored because i got her when she was 2 and she didnt do that until i put the chains on her.there nothing wrong with doing light chains on a horse to make a gait better,
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post #30 of 35 Old 06-06-2009, 06:18 PM
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This thread was not started to cause a debate. I think that we are all in agreement that light chains are okay but heavy chains or chains in conjunction with caustic substances such as kerosene or mustard oil is cruel.
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