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post #11 of 23 Old 08-21-2013, 07:57 PM Thread Starter
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The round pen is 50'

You've all pretty much confirmed what I thought. The reason I decided to round pen is because when I tried to do lunging groundwork, she turned her head to the outside, pulled, refused to look at me, etc. I had to dig in my heels and pull her to me a lot. She didn't know what the point signal to go was, or how to change directions facing you, and it was a nightmare. She took off bucking kicking with her head the other way as soon as I snapped the whip at her for not moving. Disrespectful, and not something I would EVER tolerate under normal circumstances.

In the cross ties the horse bumps me with her head, refuses to move her hip over, rubs on you, moves around, etc. Also disrespectful.

She was cantering in the round pen. I got after her because she didn't turn into me as I asked, and even kicked out at one point. Not okay.

Then the owner stepped in, and it was like pulling out my teeth...She said "whoa" four or so times, the horse finally stops and faces the fence, away from us, and she goes and catches her and tells me how I shouldn't roundpen a gaited horse.

I don't even know what to do now. She hired me for a reason; I told her my methods, and this was one. Now I'm just kinda frustrated by the thought.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #12 of 23 Old 08-21-2013, 08:11 PM
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I don't know if I would call it disrespect. It is to a point but it also sounds like the horse is confused.

I just started working with a horse that is similar. The old owner tried to lunge him, not in a round pen, but out in the open. Every time the horse would take off away and the guy couldn't hold on. Then I got ahold of the horse. He's still not perfect because we're just starting but he's now learned that he can't run off anymore. The reason I didn't work him in a round pen is because I don't have one.
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post #13 of 23 Old 08-21-2013, 08:25 PM
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Tell her to take the horse home. If she hired you to train it then she needs to back off and let you train it. If she knows so much about training gaited horse then I reckon she can train it, or she can take it to the trainer she said told her she couldn't round pen it.
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Tell her to take the horse home. If she hired you to train it then she needs to back off and let you train it. If she knows so much about training gaited horse then I reckon she can train it, or she can take it to the trainer she said told her she couldn't round pen it.
This.

When you hire a professional you don't surrender your rights or responsibilities, but you're rather an idiot to pay somebody for their advice and expertise (presumably because you lack same) and then ignore it. Or substitute your own (which is deficient from the get-go).

Ron White was right when he said, "You can't fix stupid."

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post #15 of 23 Old 08-22-2013, 09:50 AM
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I've never heard of not round penning a gaited horse, but I've heard several other "gaited horse myths", one of which is not to lunge a gaited horse. As others have stated, you don't want too small of a roundpen or lunge line. 50 feet is plenty of room.

I wish I had the luxury of a roundpen when I was training my TWH to lunge. He would've caught on much faster, and honestly I think it's easier on the horse (and trainer). If she's paying you hourly, it might take you twice as long.....so, that might be plus. :)

Honestly, if it were me, I'd tell the lady to take her horse somewhere else....or let you train it your way.

Good luck in whatever you decide.

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I've never heard of not round penning a gaited horse, but I've heard several other "gaited horse myths", one of which is not to lunge a gaited horse. As others have stated, you don't want too small of a roundpen or lunge line. 50 feet is plenty of room.
I've heard the comment several times. As has been mentioned, it can ruin their gaits if not done correctly.
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post #17 of 23 Old 08-22-2013, 10:20 AM
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MLS-Yes, the opinions on lunging gaited horses can get intense. IMO, there is nothing wrong with lunging.

In my 30+ years, I have by no way seen lunging "ruin" a gait. That's just my personal experience though.
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post #18 of 23 Old 08-23-2013, 01:02 AM Thread Starter
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I think, after she watched the horse jump away from my stick in the round pen, she's pretty much decided I'm done with that horse. Fine with me, because I could NOT stand to work with a disrespectful horse like that.

She still wants me on the gypsy horse she has though which is going to be a lot of fun. I like him, even if he is a little hard headed.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #19 of 23 Old 08-28-2013, 04:33 AM
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A horse new to the round pen will often turn towards the rail. The handler needs to take a step or two back to encourage the horse to turn inward. My round pen is 50' and my 15.1 twh finds this size inhibiting and he's liable to break into a trot which I don't want. I've free lunged him in the pasture and the size he chooses is closer to 70'.
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post #20 of 23 Old 08-28-2013, 12:40 PM Thread Starter
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I have round penned a lot of horses (When I first started apprenticing, that was my "job" until I got bigger responsibilities) and I think the behavior she was showing was typical of a horse who doesn't know what is being asked yet, and one who is pushy and dominant to boot didn't help. My mare (QH, not gaited) showed the exact same behavior down to the letter the first session but by the end was doing all I asked fine.

I haven't been out there recently since I'm moving but I'm just hoping she doesn't get hurt with that horse now.

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It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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