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    04-02-2014, 11:09 AM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by SouthernTrails    
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Have you looked at a Haggis Saddle?

Not sure where you live in Canada in relation to where they are made

Haggis Trooper Saddles

I have heard good reviews on them....



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These look like nice saddles. The upside of this type is that the "sling seat" allows for outstanding weight distribution which is a real plus for horses working longer distances. The downside is that you loose feel and they are much less useful as "equitation" saddles.

Of course most Western saddles have the same up and down sides if they are properly designed and built.

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    04-02-2014, 12:05 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by bbsmfg3    
What makes you think a western saddle will not fit. A well made one will fit. Never saw a horse they would not fit. Hillview farms makes a western saddle that is well made and can be made to fit just about any back.

HILL VIEW FARMS
I have seen that concept and those and similar built Saddles before, the problem is the pressure point created in the four corners below the bolts that attach the bars to the pads. I have also seen what happens to a horse when those bolts come loose


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    04-02-2014, 12:20 PM
  #13
Showing
I can make my own saddle but the problem is when I approached Steele who makes custom trees. They won't sell me one as they deal with large companies only. I have a Ralide tree which I've tho't of trying to custom fit to the horse but I need a lesson on working with body putty and which would be the best choice. The original plantation tree is interesting and I shall look further in to that.
     
    04-02-2014, 12:27 PM
  #14
Showing
Would you believe our mounted police forces do not use the Haggis trooper saddle and I am definitely not interested in one of them.
     
    04-02-2014, 12:56 PM
  #15
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If you want to make your own Saddle

Have your tried Bowden Saddle Trees

SADDLETREE.COM

Or precision Saddle Tree

PrecisionSaddleTree-Design


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    04-02-2014, 01:13 PM
  #16
Foal
I ride my gaited, short/wide-backed Kentucky Mountain Horse in a Passier dressage saddle on long, steep trail rides and I love it. I added a cashel seat cushion, to make it even more comfortable and rings on the back for saddle bags. I really like how balanced it is and when she does one of her occasional big spooks I don't get unseated at all. I also have bad knees and the western leathers tend to aggravate them (no matter how well turned). Got my Passier used and saved a ton of $, as well as,not having to worry about scratching a new saddle on the trail.

I tried many types of western, treeless, plantation, a/p english and endurance saddles on her (we have 15 saddles in the barn for our other horses and I've demo-ed dozens of others from online sources and tack stores). The dressage is the only one that fits my mare and I both well and makes us both happy. I suggest demo-ing as many saddles and saddle types as possible before you decide which one works for the both of you.
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    04-02-2014, 02:09 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
I can make my own saddle but the problem is when I approached Steele who makes custom trees. They won't sell me one as they deal with large companies only. I have a Ralide tree which I've tho't of trying to custom fit to the horse but I need a lesson on working with body putty and which would be the best choice. The original plantation tree is interesting and I shall look further in to that.
What are the odds of finding the right Steele tree in a so-so saddle and disassembling the saddle to make your own?

That may be the path to least resistance if you want to make your own saddle. The hard part is finding a yucky saddle for a few hundred dollars that fits.
     
    04-02-2014, 02:14 PM
  #18
Trained
I'm saving up for one of these:
Steele Trail Saddles | Trail Saddles by Steele
They come in English and Western. EVERYBODY that has one loves it. Plus, if you're not planning on punching cattle, they have hornless model.
     
    04-02-2014, 04:59 PM
  #19
Weanling
"I have seen that concept and those and similar built Saddles before, the problem is the pressure point created in the four corners below the bolts that attach the bars to the pads. I have also seen what happens to a horse when those bolts come loose"

There are only 2 makers of this design of saddle. Hillview, and RL Watson. RL Watson died and his company died with him about 2 years ago.

The Orthoflex is a flex panel saddle also, BUT built completely different.

We've had both Hillview and Watson for 20 plus years. Never had a loose bolt or any problem with pressure points where the panels attach. Huge difference between the way the panels are attached with the Hillview vs the Orthoflex.

I repeat you can not get good saddle fit with a rigid tree saddle. Impossible. And he flex trees have never been successful. In order to get a saddle that fits the horse, the saddle must flex where the horses back flexes. Especially, at the shoulders, and in the loin area.

The dressage and some of the english saddles come closer to fitting because saddel contact with the horses back is much shorter.
     
    04-02-2014, 05:15 PM
  #20
Yearling
ALL rigid tree saddles have a measure of "flex" built into them. A heavy, steer roping saddle will likely have the least while light weight English saddles will have the most.

A sensible padding system is the interface between the saddle and the constantly changing geometry of the horse's back.

The first patent for a "flexible tree saddle" was issued around 1848. They still haven't "caught on." That's a hint, if you ask me.

Some folks turn saddle fitting into a virtual "black art." It isn't.

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