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post #101 of 136 Old 10-10-2009, 04:31 PM
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That sounds like something you say when youre out of good answers. But fine, you're not the only one reading the answers any way.
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You seriously can't think you will get anywhere argueing with me over something so opinionated? I've given my opinions, so quite beating down mine :)

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post #102 of 136 Old 10-10-2009, 07:06 PM
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I have a question for the non ASB - TWH people so I can understand where you are coming from better.

What do you mean that most show ASBs you have seen have upside down necks? Is there a chance you could post a picture of a show Saddlebred with what you consider an upside down neck with an explaination of what you mean, please?
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I have a question for the non ASB - TWH people so I can understand where you are coming from better.

What do you mean that most show ASBs you have seen have upside down necks? Is there a chance you could post a picture of a show Saddlebred with what you consider an upside down neck with an explaination of what you mean, please?


This is what is considered an upside-down neck:


I'm guessing they think Saddlebreds have upside-down necks because of the way they carry their head. If you look at a picture of a Saddlebred being ridden, it does look like they have an upside-down neck. But if you look at conformation pictures of Saddlebreds, you'll see that they actually have very long, slender necks. They just carry them in a way that makes them look upside-down.
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Here's a blog I found that deals with some of the same things we're talking about.

The Greenbelt: About time - yet way too late


The author talks about how Saddlebreds were always bred to be "high and flashy" and Walkers were always bred to be "long and low." That's what makes them so smooth. Now suddenly BOTH breeds are "high and flashy."

Here's a picture of the 1945 and 1946 WGC Walker:


Here's a picture of the 2007 WGC Walker:



I couldn't find a picture of the WGC Saddlebred from 1945 and 1946, but here is the one from 1948 - 1953:


Here's the WGC Saddlebred from 2008:



HUGE difference between the Saddlebreds, right? : |




Here are some quotes from the blog:

"I also remember going to a gaited-horse show when I was in college - would have been '72 most likely; I was in the Equestrian club, and I owned a Walker, so I thought I might enjoy it. It was sad and bizarre, is what it was. There were both Walkers and American Saddlebreds at the show, which to my mind is a huge mistake for TWH people..... The main thing is, the saddle classes. You'd have a TWH class, with these horses loping ponderously around the ring, prone to breaking gait around the corners because their balance was so precarious, working so hard to maintain the gait. And then the next class would be Saddlebreds, and they'd skim around the ring, light-footed and joyous-looking. The contrast was absurd. I can't imagine any spectator leaving that show and wanting to buy a TWH based on what he'd just seen."

"Back in the 70s I wondered why TWH showers didn't just buy Saddlebreds if that's what they wanted - I still do. You'll note that that breed doesn't have these problems at their shows - because their horses do what they've been bred to do, not what they've been forced (even if not tortured) into doing. It's a vicious cycle that could only be broken by allowing decades to breed the gait into the horses - and that's a solution which will never be adopted."

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I personally like the long and low look on the TWH better than the high flashy look of the Saddlebred :)

Although it IS pretty, :) I like the concentrated look of the Walker.

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I know what an upside down neck looks like on a regular horse but I want to know what others consider an upside down neck on a show Saddlebred.
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^ Uh, the same as an upside down neck on a regular horse? It is still an uspide down neck wether on a show horse, saddlebred, or a 'regular' horse.

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Yeah... It looks the same.

This is what a lot of Saddlebreds look like while they're being ridden:


And this is what a lot of Saddlebreds look like in a halter stance:
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Well this is what I consider the majority of nice Saddlebred's necks in the ring
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Well this is what I consider the majority of nice Saddlebred's necks in the ring
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You can't even see the whole neck...
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