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post #131 of 136 Old 12-09-2011, 01:05 AM
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I actually never thought they were the same, because I knew nothing whatsoever about anything of either, haha. This is very good information, though, because I have seen people get very upset about the chains and things, but they never specified or had information on the subject like this- they just sat there saying that the whole sport is bad and abusive, etc. I definitely see the difference now that I actually look, though. Thanks for this!
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post #132 of 136 Old 12-10-2011, 11:47 AM Thread Starter
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As if you didnt get mad when posters suggested Saddlebreds are abused?
Part of your arguements are valid, but you are far from objective! From reading your posts, no abuse goes down in Saddlebred breeds. Hate to break it to you, but there is abuse in every breed, and this thread, is doing nothing but encouraging the breed stereotypes.

I thought you wanted an "educational" thread, and this is far from it. I have not seen you post one thing that is derogatory to Saddlebreds, yet you constantly post derogatory statements about Walkers.

Heck yes I am going to stand up for my breed, because I am surrounded by responsible breeders who have to deal with people like you! There are far more then just big lick walkers. Come up to Alberta and meet our show crowd. Not a single horse wears chains or pads, and their gaits are NATURAL, born walking. Now I know your horses wear chains to enhance their gait! Mine sure don't!
You apparently haven't read many of my posts, because I've said a million times that I am talking about big lick Walkers in this thread, not natural ones. I'm well aware that there is more to the breed. I also stated that you WILL find abuse in Saddlebreds, as much as you will find in any other breed. It just isn't comparable to the big licks.
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post #133 of 136 Old 12-11-2011, 01:48 AM
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I give up lol. I can't read all this... But let me just say that this is fascinating and I'm learning a lot of things from this. KEEP GOING GUYS. EDUCATE ME MORE!!!!
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Exactly. People who have a lack of knowledge of the gaiting industry and saddlebreds/TWHs are likely to group the breeds together, and people like you who have a lack of knowledge of the dressage/jumping and WB breeds are likely to group them together. There is a difference, especially with the origins of each breed. SWBs and DWBs are probably about as similar to me as TWH and saddlebreds are to you.
I've always wondered about the different warmblood breeds.

Can you make a thread or something explaining them? Please? :)
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post #135 of 136 Old 12-12-2011, 03:52 PM
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I suppose I'm saying "we're bad, but not as bad," but there's a lot more to it than that. It's A) we're just as bad as most other disciplines, in that we use training methods to exaggerate our horses' natural abilities... and B) please stop confusing us with the people that took some of our methods and used them to change a horse more dramatically than you will ever see in any other discipline just because we ride in the same saddle.

I haven't gone back and read the posts either so I don't remember exactly what was said, but I think most of the contradictory posts I received were either from people bashing Saddlebreds (which is totally beside the point), or from people who thought I was bashing ALL Walkers instead of just big licks (which is completely untrue and which I stated several times).
Fair enough, just wasn't that clear in the earlier posts and was curious.
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Wow, what a fascinating thread! I just bought a horse who may be part TWH and so I did a lot of research of course and was appalled by the caricature looking gait of the big lick show horses. I'm glad that there seems to also be a movement toward "Natural Tennessee Walking Horses" that celebrates their sweet nature, great trail endurance and smooth ride without the god awful looking show ring gait. The Saddelebred definitely looks more natural and I would venture to agree that the training techniques must be less harsh and abusive than it would take to get the ridiculous TWH big lick gaits. (but of course, like you said, there is sure to be some abuse within any discipline). YIKES! Thanks for posting this and having the discussion. I would probably cry if I ever went to a TWH show! But maybe not at a Saddlebred show....
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