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    10-22-2013, 02:38 AM
Is she lame or?

I've never owned or even seen a gaited horse in person before.. until I bought Mysti at auction last year.
I honestly don't know what a Tennessee walker is supposed to move like.. To me she seems sore. She stumbles and trips a lot, really uncoordinated. Her hocks seem to move really stiffly and she struggles to hold a gait faster than a walk when in a circle.
She started trying to buck.. one day while walking downhill, she froze then bunny hopped a bunch. And another time, she was walking along calm, and out of nowhere started broncing it. She was angry and determined to get me off.
On the ground she's a total sweetheart so I'm wondering whats going on with her. I did get a new saddle, as the old one was pinching her shoulders.. which may have been the cause of the bucking. I haven't ridden her since.
What do you think? (video from a few months ago.. have switched farrier since and theres some improvement)
(from April I believe)
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    10-22-2013, 09:18 AM
If this is an old video you need to redo it. Follow the same format. Then you can make a good comparison of then and now.

From the video posted, you need to have your vet look her.

Before you do get her trimmed up to anatomical correctness and remove any "action devices" (including heavy or weighted shoes; I could not tell from the video if, or how, she was shod). If she's trimmed "long and low" then it will take several weeks to several months to get her grown out to where she needs to be.

My layman's guess is a hock issue, probably arthritis. How old is she? She lookes shorter in the back to the right than to the left. She has no overstride (understride looks 6-12 inches, varying somewhat).

Conformationally, she's long backed. Can't tell about the rear legs but they look OK. Her topline is poor (that can be remedied with work). Bottom line better but still needs work. Nice back end; a little light in the front and neck.

Gait is pacy, but that too can be remedied with some conditioning and training. Looks like she tried to canter a couple of times but didn't make it. That, again, is suggestive of hock issues.

Generally, as noted in the thread below, gaited horses (particularly TWHs) are not notorious buckers. They can, they just don't usually. When they do it's a sign of something pretty significant. Let the vet do an eval. And then be guided by what they find.

Good luck with her!

    10-22-2013, 09:42 AM
In the first video I'm seeing a nice long stride, which she naturally shortens as she picks up speed. In a good running walk the hind should land as the front (same side) knee is elevated. If they land almost in unison, that is a stepping pace and not particularly desirable. A lunge line isn't really long enough to encourage good movement in a gaited horse. It works better for diagonal movement. My pen is 50' and I'm thinking of adding another 12' panel. Next time you make a video, put polo wraps on her legs on one side. This makes it much easier to see how she's striding.
    10-22-2013, 09:44 AM
I like her movement better in the first video. Nice long stride at the walk, good relaxed back movement and nice head nod. I'm not sure the farrier improved her stride at all.
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    10-22-2013, 11:15 AM
Thanks for everyones responses! Im just at work right now, so will just do a quick reply until later. The first video is the most recent, about 3 months ago, and the second video is about 6 months ago. I had the vet look at her and she suspected hock issues as well, but told me to rest her for awhile and see if it got better before getting xrays. She also didnt know what gaited horses were supposed to look like, so she couldnt tell for sure. I have another video from a week ago I'll put up, and I will get another today with polo wraps. Thanks!
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    10-22-2013, 11:16 AM
Also, she is barefoot
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    10-22-2013, 11:47 AM
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Horse is sore. She is not free moving in these, seems to hitch in the rear at times.

You need to get more diagnostics done on her to find out what is going on, but this mare is NOT feeling good at all.

And if your last saddle did not fit her and you kept riding in it anyway? She could have bone damage, muscle damage, or deep seated abscesses too. Or bone damage in feet.
    10-22-2013, 11:52 AM
I only rode her in that saddle 2 times.. The 2 times she bucked.
I am going to contact my vet and see about getting hock xrays done on her.
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    10-22-2013, 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by horseluver50    
I only rode her in that saddle 2 times.. The 2 times she bucked.
I am going to contact my vet and see about getting hock xrays done on her.
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Two and done is not a problem. She communicated; you listened. Maybe you can hang your shingle as an "animal communicator"?!?!?!?!

Do you have access to a vet school or large animal clinic? They often have better facilities to get you a good diagnosis. They can also often offer a wider choice of therapies. Even if you have to make a "day trip" it might be time well invested.

    10-22-2013, 12:37 PM
Here are some links you might find helpful:

The Equine Hock: What Horse Owners Should Know - Thal Equine LLC | Thal Equine LLC

Horses and Hock Problems – America’s Horse Daily

What Things Make You Think "Hock Problems"

On that last item, there's link in the thread. Be sure you read it.


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