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post #91 of 122 Old 12-14-2009, 02:54 AM
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You made a great point Marrissa.These horses have "natural" gaits.So why are the pads and chains LEGAL? They should be preserving the horses real gait instead up making "mechanical" gaits.

I wonder how many of these horses will be prone to leg problems in the future?
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post #92 of 122 Old 12-17-2009, 10:17 AM
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I'm possibly going to look at a TWH (I will be taking a pro trainer w/me) I don't yet know what he was used for in the past, but can soring cause lasting damage? Do I need to make sure my trainer checks his hooves for anything? Thanks!! (We will be using him to learn to ride on)
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My old guy was a TWH. He had stifle and tendon problems. I am sure they were caused from his early show career. But he was the best beginner's horse, could not have found a better personality. He is retired to pasture now. My point is, even though he did have some lameness issues, I think from showing, it was still worth getting him because I really could put anyone on him and he was almost bomb proof, and I got some confidence with him, although I could have used another year or so, but his fetlock was starting to swell whenever he was ridden and the vet said he was pretty much done.
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post #94 of 122 Old 12-17-2009, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunny06 View Post
Apparently I can't get my train of thought across.

I know it's abusive.

I just think that there are other practices that are worse. Therefore, it makes me a tad irritated when people think that soring is the worst abusive practice possible.

That's all.

Forget it. I'm through talking about this. Nobody can.. Agree..?
Danggit, I tried to stay out of this.
Tell me what practices are more abusive than the systematic soring of TWH, the addition of weighted stacks that all but cripple horses movements, and the slashing of tendons so a tail will stick up in the air? If it was just one of these.....but the poor horses are made to endure all of them, in many cases.

I do jumping/eventing and dressage. I know there are some abuses there too. I do not defend them in any way or participate. But NONE of these abuses that I am aware of, IMO, are as painful and selfish as the ones protected by the TWH big lick world.

Dadgummit! Got sucked into a rant. Sorry.
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post #95 of 122 Old 12-17-2009, 11:56 AM
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Honey, I am SO with you on this. We moved to Kentucky last year and I was so excited to go to my first walking horse show, not ten minutes from our home!

That was my first and absolutely last show. I had to leave before the first hour was up. I could not believe how unnatural those poor horses looked as they lurched around the ring! Their front ends were so jacked up with the pads (and most of them had hooves they could never have walked on if the pads were removed--they were eight to ten inches too long, but only on the front of the hoof) and their back ends so squatted under it almost made me cry. There is absolutely NO WAY this is not detrimental to the horse. It would be like me putting one of your feet in a 12" platform shoe and the other in a flat ballerina slipper and making you run a marathon. How will you feel afterward? Extremely sore, one-sided, overdeveloped on one side and pretty much crippled overall. Then I leave you in those shoes as you grow, develop and age. Imagine how you will feel when you get to be old (if you make it that far).

I will post a few pictures and a video I took there when I get home. I sat by one of the ends of the ring, so I saw their hind ends as they went around, and it was just sick how those poor horses are forced and constrained to move.

This whole practice is shameful and was only developed because some trainers in the 40's couldn't or didn't want to train to the level a beautifully gaited, high-stepping horse requires and the crowds and judges continued to want the Big Lick gait. All about money and fame. SICK.

Originally Posted by Honeysuga View Post
Even the so called "kind" padding throws off the horses entire skelatal structure and how they move. Knowingly doing this, to me, is abuse. I love to see the big grapefruit joints of the "kind" padded horses and hear the owners say they are perfectly fine, it is such a trip. I don't think a person who will do this to an animal just for the ribbons and showing should be allowed to even own a goat.

I think that big lick showing looks disgusting. Even the non sored horses are so sickle hocked form stretching their hind tendons so they can literally walk only on their hind ends. They constantly look like they are going to have to sit on their haunches just to keep from falling.

And those ridiculous bits with foot ling shanks they use, no wonder the horses constantly have the "wild eyed" look, I gaurntee if they could talk they'd just beg to be shot to stop the pain.

Look how paddle footed they are, how badly those legs swing out, how the joints flex unnaturally to support those heavy pads. This is sick.

And in my opinion I think the whole TWH industry should be shut down, to fix the problem. Boo hoo to those who don/t sore, its for the greater good.

*steps off soap box...for now*
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post #96 of 122 Old 12-17-2009, 07:36 PM
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Here are the pics and video I said I would post.

The pictures are of two different horses on pads (there were several much worse than this, but I didn't have the chance to get pics of their feet). Doesn't look like those horses ever get to walk around without them, does it. :(

TWH Show 2009 - Shoes 1.jpg

TWH Show 2009 - Shoes 2.jpg

The video really shows how horrible the padded gait is. The grey and white horse is the best example of this. :(

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post #97 of 122 Old 12-17-2009, 08:10 PM
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Hate to sound like one of the young kids you always hear getting over emotional over this issue but I did literally start tearing up watching those poor horses move.That gray had his legs spread out so far just to keep his balance, pitiful looking guy.

Those pictures of the hooves look very painful, their coffin bone angle has to be horrendous and the white line stretching is probably excruciating.

It depresses me so much to watch this and know the system is so corrupt and convoluted that this will never end, that those horses have to go home and stand in those ridiculous pads with no hope of relieving the pain.

Speaks volumes for us "supreme" and awesome humans doesn't it.Speaks volumes on cruel, ignorant, brutish human nature. They say you can define a culture by the condition of its suffering members, and I do not see how we can consider ourselves such an "advanced" culture and still let this revolting tradition continue and continue to turn a blind eye to it or just shrug it off as a necessary evil for our own barbaric entertainment.

How can people say these horses look proud or spirited? They look like they have had the spirit ripped out of them and stomped into the ground, all in the name of vanity and profit.

And for the record I am completely unapologetic for this rant. I say this because I was just about to type "sorry for the rant", but I am not sorry. This is a sick tradition.

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post #98 of 122 Old 12-17-2009, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Horse Dreamer View Post
I'm possibly going to look at a TWH (I will be taking a pro trainer w/me) I don't yet know what he was used for in the past, but can soring cause lasting damage? Do I need to make sure my trainer checks his hooves for anything? Thanks!! (We will be using him to learn to ride on)
Yes, it can and does. You should have him thoroughly checked by your trainer and vet and have his hooves and tendons xrayed to check for the possible damage or see the extent of damage anyway.

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post #99 of 122 Old 12-24-2009, 07:33 AM
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The thing I don't understand is WHY? Why does a TWH have to have such a show gait?
Very simple to end it. Petition the show providers to eliminate the class. Show in normal gait and conformation.
If they are a breeder and showing, not only is it harmful to the horse but they are misrepresenting the breed. If the horse cannot genetically perform than it is like false advertising. Your not helping the breed at all.

Kinda like puttin lipstick on a pig......
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post #100 of 122 Old 12-25-2009, 05:08 PM
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I read 7 pages and gave up but I DO have a question about the pads. How does a horse not break an ankle walking in those? Can they be turned out? I'm thinking no? How often are they left on? Only for showing? The whole pad thing confuses me.

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