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So, you think SORING is wrong???

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        09-26-2009, 12:16 PM
      #41
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CrazyChester    
    I'm confused.

    What is soring? Is it a movement a horse makes? Or a chemical that they put in the horse to make it have 'flasher' strides?
    Yes, they are chemicals people put on the horse's legs. It is illegal, but some of the old-timers refuse to let it go.

    In my opinion, pads and chains are good enough. They kind of do the same, so why do they keep doing it?
         
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        09-26-2009, 02:20 PM
      #42
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Sunny06    
    Yes, they are chemicals people put on the horse's legs. It is illegal, but some of the old-timers refuse to let it go.

    In my opinion, pads and chains are good enough. They kind of do the same, so why do they keep doing it?
    Pads? Like this?










    Good enough. Hmm.
         
        09-26-2009, 03:33 PM
      #43
    Green Broke
    Pads without the crap.

    The REAL ones. Not the abusive ones.

    Not all chains leave abrasions to the skin. Most don't unless, of course, you use them wrong.

    You are just picking through and finding the worst ones you can possibly find.

    I can find dressage abuse and horse-racing abuse just as good as you can.
         
        09-26-2009, 04:08 PM
      #44
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sunny06    
    Pads without the crap.

    The REAL ones. Not the abusive ones.

    Not all chains leave abrasions to the skin. Most don't unless, of course, you use them wrong.

    You are just picking through and finding the worst ones you can possibly find.

    I can find dressage abuse and horse-racing abuse just as good as you can.
    Well I'm not defending dressage or racing like you defend these bizarre devices to make horses move like mechanical beasts.

    So please find away.

    Also even the flat shod shoes mess up TWH's feet.

    So please enlightenment me on what "pads" are not detrimental to a horses feet and soundness.
         
        09-26-2009, 04:12 PM
      #45
    Green Broke
    I'm not going to argue with you.

    All I'm going to say is not all pads are destructive. Not all chains are destructive.

    Yes, I've read sites that swear on the horrible'ness' of pads, chains, etc. But I don't do it so I have nothing to worry about. I feel bad for the horses that fall into the abusive trainers grasp. Like the photos you showed.

    If it were up to me, all would be shown in a keg shoe.
         
        09-26-2009, 04:17 PM
      #46
    Yearling
    All I asked was what pads are not destructive.

    There is no argument there. You are the one always arguing and carrying on.
         
        09-26-2009, 04:23 PM
      #47
    Green Broke
    What do you mean 'what pads'?

    The ones that are made of [fiberglass?] and are nailed (or glued) on correctly. Ones used with plastic chains or none at all. No nails, no chemicals. No extra weights.

    Pads that belong to people that just want to carry on the tradition and not want to sore or other wise make their horses in complete pain the whole time.

    They are naturally going to be heavier than a keg shoe. Flat shod or the shoes Saddlebreds use are more humane than pads.

    Flat shod can create damage, but you can't complain. At least they aren't soring them. It is much more natural (as opposed to pads).

    Quote:
    There is no argument there. You are the one always arguing and carrying on.
    Then don't feed the fire with ridiculous photos like that. Those ARE abusive.

    Notice it said 'this' Walking Horse. Indicating not all TWHs get nails shoved up their heel.
         
        09-26-2009, 04:27 PM
      #48
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sunny06    
    What do you mean 'what pads'?

    The ones that are made of [fiberglass?] and are nailed (or glued) on correctly. Ones used with plastic chains or none at all.

    Pads that belong to people that just want to carry on the tradition and not want to sore or other wise make their horses in complete pain the whole time.

    They are naturally going to be heavier than a keg shoe. Flat shod or the shoes Saddlebreds use are more humane than pads.

    Flat shod can create damage, but you can't complain. At least they aren't soring them. It is much more natural (opposed to pads).
    Well I can't find any of these pads that are so pure and traditional and perfect. Can you show me what they look like.

    Flat shod, I can't complain? At least they are not soring them?

    That's like saying "Well, I can't complain. He doesn't hit her in public."

    That's the most amazing view I've ever seen. Sure I can complain. They cause much damage just in a different way.

    I ride a TWH who is barefoot. He has a wonderful silky gait. I ride some kind of saddlebred cross that will rack or whatever and he too is barefoot.

    How old are you? If you don't mind me asking. I have assumed for weeks you are thirteen and fourteen years old, and if so I don't mean to be harsh. Like that Morganshow girl, she was just a 12 or 13 year old kid without much grasp on things yet.

    So if you are just a kid then I'm sorry if I've been harsh. I just have a hard time understanding your logic and reason and thinking process.
         
        09-26-2009, 04:44 PM
      #49
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rissa    
    Well I can't find any of these pads that are so pure and traditional and perfect. Can you show me what they look like.
    Look? I guess so. I was reading about them a little bit ago. The 'good' ones. But the bad thing is that they leave 'bars' on the hoof.

    hoof bar.jpg

    It's not abusive, but not necessarilly desirable either.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rissa    
    Flat shod, I can't complain? At least they are not soring them?

    That's like saying "Well, I can't complain. He doesn't hit her in public."

    That's the most amazing view I've ever seen. Sure I can complain. They cause much damage just in a different way.
    When I wrote that I figured that one would think that.

    I apologize. That wasn't a very good look on it. BUT... Flat shod is better than pads, right?

    No, I'm not Morganshow. Nor am I her age. roll.gif

    This has turned into a mess.

    Originally, all I was *trying* to say was that I really didn't think that TWHs on the 'extreme high abusive' list.

    SURE, they get abused. I will never ever forget that.

    But... There are so many people that are good about it (or at least as good as they can be). They take good care of their show horse. Give him 'breaks' off pads. Don't use heavy chains. Etcetera.

    Truly? It'd just be better to quit it altogether.

    Does that make any sense?
         
        09-26-2009, 04:49 PM
      #50
    Started
    These pads and chains sounds like abuse to me. In my opinion, anything that causes a horse to walk unnaturally or leave marks(yes, Sunny, even those bars) is abuse. I love TWH, but I hate the majority of people who own them because they are so ignorant about what they are doing to the horse.


    And just for the record, I think that Walkers have a beautiful natural gait, and all that high stepping crap is so weird and ugly looking.
         

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