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So, you think SORING is wrong???

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        11-05-2009, 02:51 PM
    Okay, that is so far beyond disgusting I just can't fathom it.
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        11-07-2009, 03:19 PM
    Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
    Exactly as it sounds. Bleeding some blood out so the horse is more lethargic.

    Money is a huge motivator.

    As far as I know, it is not nearly as common these days as it used to be. The sole purpose for doing it was to make the Western Pleasure horse weak, so that it would appear very docile and quiet and keep its head low.

    A friend of mine went to the QH Congress several years ago, back when "bleeding" was much more common. He said that the drains in the wash stalls actually clogged up at one point - from all of the blood.

        12-08-2009, 09:03 PM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by c47    
    check the study that auburn university did on the padded horse over the course of 8 years. They concluded that pads do not adversely affect the horses joints, legs, muscles, ect.

    You are wrong, I did check the study here is what I found

    Auburn Study – page 17 of “Thermography in Diagnosis of Inflammatory Processes In Horses In Response to various Chemical and Physical factors” – Summary of research from 9/78 to 12/82

    “Thermography study suggests that shoeing of the forefeet in pads and wedges from a barefoot status causes a 1-2 degree rise in temperature in the superficial and deep flexor tendon areas. Similarly, inflammation in this area was observed on thermography when the angle of the hoof was raised or lowered. When the heels were lowered on 5/11 and observed until 6/1 there was a gradual decrease of inflammation in the flexor tendon area.”

    APHIS Report (remember that mechanical devices can cause soring, too.)

    Table 4—Incidence of pathological abnormalities indicative of soring, by type of horse, at events attended by APHIS in 2000

    • Random Winning All horses
    • Flat-shod Padded Flat-shod Padded Flat-shod Padded Overall
    • Horses
    • examined 538 272 1,391 976 1,929 1,248 3,260
    • Percent w/
    • abnormalities 18 82 17 79 17 79 42

    I don't know about you but to me 79% padded compared to 17% flat, yeah that is quite obvious a big difference...

    I think soring is sick. Though I love the trainer in the videos posted who was all like "they are padding to have fun and show, that isn't abuse" hehe, perfect poster child for IQ of a goat person thinking soring is ok because it has been done forever and there is too much money switching hands to stop it.

    I love that they also say "my inspectors report 99% clean horses" It kind of makes it obvious that they are passing sore horses, but they only report 1 percent... nice work you are doing your jobs perfectly.

    I salute anyone who can sit there and say that soring and padding and using chains does not hurt a horse. It takes a great deal of mind power to pull off that kind of self delusion! Go you!

    Even the so called "kind" padding throws off the horses entire skelatal structure and how they move. Knowingly doing this, to me, is abuse. I love to see the big grapefruit joints of the "kind" padded horses and hear the owners say they are perfectly fine, it is such a trip. I don't think a person who will do this to an animal just for the ribbons and showing should be allowed to even own a goat.

    I think that big lick showing looks disgusting. Even the non sored horses are so sickle hocked form stretching their hind tendons so they can literally walk only on their hind ends. They constantly look like they are going to have to sit on their haunches just to keep from falling.

    And those ridiculous bits with foot ling shanks they use, no wonder the horses constantly have the "wild eyed" look, I gaurntee if they could talk they'd just beg to be shot to stop the pain.

    Look how paddle footed they are, how badly those legs swing out, how the joints flex unnaturally to support those heavy pads. This is sick.

    And in my opinion I think the whole TWH industry should be shut down, to fix the problem. Boo hoo to those who don/t sore, its for the greater good.

    I think this ranks right up there with the mexican horse tripping in my abuse book.

    And even the origins of the TWH riding should tell you something about the lack of care by the big wigs that show. These are people who come from lines of ignorant backwater Tennesee slave owners and plantation owners, not exactly our best examples of good citizenship... Not every one hwo does it, mind you, but most I have seen...

    *steps off soap box...for now*
        12-08-2009, 09:26 PM
    Green Broke
    Yeah, that graph would not work, but pretty much there are four categories, Random, winning and all horses, and overall. Then the numbers below break each category into 2 parts(except the overall, it stays one) flat shod and padded, you cna match the numbers and percents to the corresponding heading or go to to see it yourself.
        12-08-2009, 09:56 PM
    Disgusting !

    The things man will do for money...
        12-11-2009, 10:43 AM
    Hard to believe this goes on in our advanced country. I sent money to the group who is against TWH abuse. I know those groups tend to be radical but in this instance it seems we need that.
        12-13-2009, 04:09 PM
    Such is the way of competition, there is always someone willing to win at all costs, others willing to push the envelope of decency. There are no gentlemanly sports anymore, ethics,and morals have taken a back seat to high stakes,titles and just winning.
        12-13-2009, 04:16 PM
    Sorry just a negative comment earlier but want to make my stand clear. "Soring is wrong!" people that sore are sickos, any horse association that doesn't take a positive action against soring is in it for the money and not the horses.
        12-14-2009, 12:49 AM
    I find it disturbing how comfortable the owners in the videos were talking about soring their horses...
    (Like it was no big deal)
        12-14-2009, 01:30 AM
    I think a breed that prides itself on the natural movement of the breed shouldn't need soring, pads, and chains to "improve" the movement.

    Makes me sick to see this but I am absolutely glad this is being brought to public eye. I could not take hurting my horse. That violates the whole relationship between you and your horse.

    Lacyloo- totally agree. They were just like "yeah I did it. *shrug*" The lady was even telling us how her horse is ruined because of her and yet it looks like she's teaching the other person on how to abuse them. Never heard her say she was sorry or she regretted it.

    Pads even not as heavy and as tall as the ones frequently shown absolutely effect the horses soundness. It causes more wear/tear and stress on the joints and tendons.

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