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post #71 of 167 Old 09-13-2012, 07:28 PM
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@ Inga : You've hit the nail on the head, and it couldn't have been said any better- that's exactly what I was thinking myself. I haven't watched any of the videos on this topic, because I know for a fact I would be having nightmares for weeks. Do you know I never knew any of this existed? I have two sweet mares out back that are like my own children, and I wouldn't allow anyone to harm 1 hair on there bodies let alone this horror I've just learned about recently. I have no reservations when I've said previously, "There is a special place in hell reserved for those people".
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post #72 of 167 Old 09-13-2012, 07:35 PM
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I watched a video once of big lick 2 year old futurity fillies. It was the absolute most heart breaking thing I've ever seen. These tiny gangly yearling like horses with huge men hunched over so ugly with feet hanging almost to the horses knees. Like, these poor things were so small and undeveloped, they could barely stay on them. They looked so distressed and miserable. It hit home because the soring videos are grotesque enough but just some of the innocent innocuous videos on YouTube break my heart the most because these poor animals don't even get a chance at an even remotely normal life. They're destroyed before they've even left babyhood.....
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post #73 of 167 Old 09-13-2012, 07:40 PM
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Maybe you have to be inbred to see this as a good thing?
Perhaps that is the reason they see this as "fashionable". There's also the story of Black Beauty and how the lady of the house used bearing reins on the carriage horses because it was the "in" thing to do...it took me a week to pick the book up when I first read that part as a child. Horses are not the only animals unfortunately. Because of man, the animals of this world suffer....and it is morally bankrupt for the most part. I wish I had the power to reverse horse and owner/trainer in those situations and let the horse fall over laughing as the owner or trainer is the one in unbearable pain!

God said for man to go forth and rule over the animals of the earth, but man heard "Go forth and destroy all that I have created, suck the life from these creatures until they become extinct!"

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post #74 of 167 Old 09-13-2012, 08:13 PM
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Isn't that the truth? Giving us dominion over animals didn't mean a free pass to use and abuse, it meant to care for. IMO

Also, don't even get me started on the bits these idiots use and the stupid tail sets. Ugh! That photo is still haunting my thoughts. I wish I could be there with my farrier. I would say "I will knock out the owner, you get those stupid shoes off." Then we could get him stripped of his tack and loaded into a trailer to a soft life. The poor horse wouldn't know what hit him.

Hey! A girl can dream, right?
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post #75 of 167 Old 09-14-2012, 08:59 AM
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In Genesis man gets dominion. In Proverbs 12/10 we read:

A righteous man has regard for the life of his animal, But even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.

So a duty is laid upon the husbandryman to be humane and effective in the care and training of his animals. By extension, you can argue that this encourages conservation efforts, also.

Or if you want to be Darwinian we are, in fact, at the top of the food chain. But, if by our actions, we destroy that chain what happens to those at the top? We might be the last to die, but death is sure.

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post #76 of 167 Old 09-14-2012, 11:05 AM
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In Genesis man gets dominion. In Proverbs 12/10 we read:

A righteous man has regard for the life of his animal, But even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.

So a duty is laid upon the husbandryman to be humane and effective in the care and training of his animals. By extension, you can argue that this encourages conservation efforts, also.

Or if you want to be Darwinian we are, in fact, at the top of the food chain. But, if by our actions, we destroy that chain what happens to those at the top? We might be the last to die, but death is sure.

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As a Christian, I believe in Christ and in all the ways He taught us to live in Godliness. We were also told in Ephesians 6:4- New International Version (1984) "Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord." and in Ephesians 5:28-33 it says for husbands to "love their wives as they love themselves.

Yet I know, as Inga has stated, this world, for the most part, is morally bankrupt. That is why their is a need for the foster care system, Child & Family services and battered spouses, usually wives, are on the news EVERY DAY. Man has become a demon eating up the earth and all that dwell upon it. I should know I survived a child hood chock full of drug addicted/alcohol dependent parents, foster parents and sexual torture at the hands of a foster brother. Yet I broke the cycle by promising myself I would never be like them...

That being said even Darwin was kind to animals, seeing (from his POV) that animals are where we came from.

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It's a sad day for Christianity that so much abuse originates from religious zealots - they are the absolute worst. Whether it's abuse of animals or abuse of people, you show me a bible thumper who spews the word of Christ like a volcano and I'll show you a household that quakes in fear. I don't understand it. My only guess is they don't even believe in God and it's just an excuse to torture everything within grabbing distance.
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It's a sad day for Christianity that so much abuse originates from religious zealots - they are the absolute worst. Whether it's abuse of animals or abuse of people, you show me a bible thumper who spews the word of Christ like a volcano and I'll show you a household that quakes in fear. I don't understand it. My only guess is they don't even believe in God and it's just an excuse to torture everything within grabbing distance.
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Sadly true for some. It seems that some folks will use religion as a weapon but let's face it, they are not living the word, These people are distorting it for their own needs so... guess they are not true Christians then.
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Zealotry is not a Christian monopoly. How many Christian "suicide" bombers can you name from the past year?

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post #80 of 167 Old 09-17-2012, 03:36 PM
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When did I say it was? "Suicide bombers" are not the ones soring horses in Tennessee.
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