Spotted Saddle Horse & American Saddlebred

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    09-03-2011, 10:26 AM
Spotted Saddle Horse & American Saddlebred

The Spotted Saddle Horse is actually an American 3 or 5 gaited Saddlebred with a tobiano spotted coloring. I have documentation on this if a question arises.
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    09-03-2011, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by candandy49    
The Spotted Saddle Horse is actually an American 3 or 5 gaited Saddlebred with a tobiano spotted coloring. I have documentation on this if a question arises.
I am interested in either reading a scanned copy of the documentation or please provide the link, so I can read that.

    09-03-2011, 08:33 PM
I thought they were a type of walker?
    09-04-2011, 12:33 AM
Typically, they are not full Saddlebreds. Since American Saddlebreds are trotters, and the naturally gaited individuals are few, Tennessee Walking horse blood is a pretty strong requirement. 3 Gaited Saddlebreds are no different than a Quarter Horse in gaits. Walk, Trot, and Canter, thus not considered "gaited", and not eligible to be registered as a SSH in either registry that I found. The 5 Gaited Saddlebreds are shown at a walk, trot, canter, slow gait, and rack, nixing the NSSHA as a potential registry, because of the trot. Saddlebreds are a trotting breed, with the genetic ability to learn the lateral gaits. They are not "gaited" like a TWH, Rocky Mountain, Paso, Icelandic or other true gaited breed.

From the NSSHA:

"Parentage: Any horse, regardless of background, may be registered, providing the horse is spotted (unless applying for I-D or Breeding Stock papers), and exhibits a saddle gait, which may be a flat walk, running walk, pace, rack, or a combination of all gaits. The horse cannot trot."
^ Note the last sentence.

Registration Form can be found here, with requirements.

From the registration application:
"Acceptable Outcrosses for Spotted Saddle Horses include the following: Registered horses from any of the following registries: Tennessee Walking Horses, Mo. Fox Trotters, Racking Horses, SSHBEA Reg. Spotted Horses, Ky. Mountain Horses.

It is Not Acceptable to breed Spotted Saddle Horses to Non-Gaited horses
Such as Quarter Horses, etc., horses that do not have a smooth gait."

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From the SSHBEA:
The registration application is here, with requirements.
From the Registration Application
"- All horses must exhibit a smooth, easy saddle gait other than a trot(such as a single-foot; a running walk; a rack; a stepping pace; etc.). All horses must be inspected for their gait and color by a SSHBEA inspector or a video showing horse in motion can be submitted with application for registration.
-Cross Breeding (mating of horses of different breeds and of grade horses) - horses being registered where there is cross breeding, the SSHBEA will require a video to be submitted with the application for registration regardless that the horse has been inspected for gait by a SSJBEA inspector. Examples of some of the other breeds: American Saddlebred, Quarter Horse, Arabians, Pintos, etc.
-Acceptable cross breeding - Tennessee Walking horses, Racking horses, and NSSHA registered horses, any other breed will require a video submitted with application for registration."

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The American Saddlebred, the trotting breed separate from the SSH, started off as Saddlers, or Kentucky Saddlers, were then referred to as Saddle Horses, and then the breed was officially changed to American Saddlebred. The old timey ASB trainers still call them Saddle Horses. One of our prominent breed publications is the Saddle Horse Report. I will get approximate dates of when the breed name was altered when I can. A "Saddle Horse" or Saddlebred, is not the same as the Spotted Saddle Horse breed. The SSHs may have Saddlebred Blood, but they are not Saddlebreds. Spotted Saddlebreds are just American Saddlebreds with color, and no different from plain chestnut. There is no special registry that I found for Spotted American Saddlebreds or Saddlebreds of Color.

Is there another Spotted Saddle Horse that you are talking about?
    09-04-2011, 12:59 AM
From the ASHA's Breed History pages.

ASHA - American Saddlebred Horse Association
"In 1891, the American Saddlebred Horse Association was founded in Louisville, Kentucky, the first such organization for an American breed of horse. Originally known as the National Saddle Horse Breeders Association, which making the official name of the breed the Saddle Horse, its name was changed to American Saddle Horse Breeders Association in 1899 and to the American Saddlebred Horse Association in 1980, in order to describe better the horse and the all-encompassing mission of the Association. Despite the fact that during the late nineteenth century the American Saddle Horse was still very much a using animal, the rivalry at horse shows between breeders and especially state pride between Kentucky and Missouri was intense. Gifted horsemen began making a living at training show horses."
    09-04-2011, 07:04 AM
I am so very with having made such a terrible mistake in the opening of this thread. I was so very mistaken and apologize for my ignorance.

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