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post #31 of 36 Old 01-11-2009, 09:34 AM
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My Arab gelding does occaionally pace in the pasture. First time I seen him do it I kept watching, wondering what he was doing. Sometimes when we're riding, and he wants to go, and I hold him back he does some sort of a running walk. He goes fast like he wants to, but keeps walking like he's told. Very interesting. He's going on 22 yrs old this year and still did it last time we went out on a ride.

I would guess that he could get better at it if I encouraged it. I think it the tendancy may be in some of them, it would just take practice and encouragement to bring it out.
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post #32 of 36 Old 01-15-2009, 12:36 AM
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yea my friend has a mustang thats gaited, you cant teach a horse to be gaiting, you can teach them to lift there legs up higher but its not the same. my friends horse isn't gaited and she an arabian and does really well in saddle seat
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post #33 of 36 Old 01-15-2009, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Twilight Arabians View Post
yea my friend has a mustang thats gaited, you cant teach a horse to be gaiting, you can teach them to lift there legs up higher but its not the same. my friends horse isn't gaited and she an arabian and does really well in saddle seat

many mustangs are naturally gaited.
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post #34 of 36 Old 01-15-2009, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Supermane View Post
many mustangs are naturally gaited.
After reading that and thinking for a moment, it makes sense; the Mustang is a mixture of so many different breeds, there is no reason not to believe that a gaited horse is in that mix.

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Hmmm, now I know that I did see my mustang mare pacing in the pasture for about 4 paces! Everyone said I was nuts. Just to add to the pot, I have had miniature horses pacing in the pasture, it was more of a pace and definitely not a rack, but yet they are suppose to be basic 3 gaited horses. These were foals/yearlings and once they mature I have never seen them do it again.

I worked with standardbreds and while some of them pace naturally due to selective breeding, I have seen a trotter that would always break to the canter trained to be a pacer. The main component in that is just adding the pacing hobbles and giving the horse plenty of time to learn his new gait before you start to push speed into the picture.

I don't know how many times I have looked and caught horses that should not pace or rack doing either or in the pasture for at least 2 or 3 steps, especially young horses.

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somersetfarms: If you don't mind me asking, do you know the registered name of your Arabian? I'm curious about his pedigree.

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Supermane; very interesting.. I know that there can be born one ''special'' horse in any breed that can rack or pace, but I just think there where too many different arabians in that video racking, as it's not a gaited horse in that way.. but maybe it is like with the saddlebreds? Some does it but it's not well known?
Tho I've had some contact with arabiand and never, ever heard of it, but I've heard quite a lot about the saddlebreds.. :/
Bingo. The Arabian is not known to be a gaited breed, because the majority of its members do not gait. However, there are a special few who have this trait and pass it to their offspring. It's particularly fickle because the Arabian, like the Saddlebred, is not bred for gait. Making things more complicated, the Arabian, unlike the Saddlebred, is not only not taught to gait, but is actively discouraged from gaiting. I'm a gaiting Arabian enthusiast and found this thread while Googling gaiting topics.

Both *Raseyn and Rabiyas, and other gaiting Arabians like them, had an in-born natural predisposition to gait, referred to as an amble at the time, and from this the natural gait was trained and shaped into a slow rack and fast rack- much like the training of any other horse. So with that in mind, they aren't helpful examples for the topic you want to discuss.

This is just my opinion, as I personally subscribe to the genetic predisposition hypothesis combined with the conformational ability hypothesis. If you were to search gaited forums, you will find a number that preach that the best foundation for gait training is to build up the walk, or "work that walk." Look up Imus gaited training methods on Google, that's what I used to get a fox trot out of my Arabian mare. Granted, she has gaiting-linked Arabians in her pedigree and has the conformation to do so.

Really, I just specialize in gathering information on multi-gaited Arabians and all information relating to that. This post is a little old, but it ignited my passion! Who knows, maybe it will help someone else who is searching for similar information some day.

-Bazleyd (another gaiting Arabian!)

I have seen articles suggesting there was a time where a QH could gait
(also openly discouraged), and know of one person who owned a gaiting TB. But I believe they're even rarer than the Arabs! On average, they're less likely to be built for it as well. You mention watching film clips of gaiting Arabians, would you mind pointing me in their direction? I have heard of one clip in existance of an Arabian gaiting from the Kellogg days, but could not locate it, and often people direct me to gaiting Arabians and they turn out to be Park Arabians. Ever curious!
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