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        06-03-2013, 04:40 PM
      #11
    Trained
    No sympathy here. Karma is a"nasty lady".
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        06-03-2013, 04:56 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    I apologize beforehand if my comment here is offensive to someone (it truly is not meant to be) but I bet slave traders uttered the same laments in their time. Some practices need to become a dark spot in history and nothing more.
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        06-03-2013, 06:08 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Corporal    
    Toosexy, you should search for articles about TWH which show abuse, that have been posted here over the last several years. You'll want to cry when you witness the pain the suffering inflicted bc the "trainers" (more like inquisitioners) want to win$ in the show ring and get paid to inflict more pain on more TWH's.
    IDK if you ride gaited but TWH's have a very comfortable natural running walk and smooth canter that they are born with. There is no need to use special shoes or equipment to enjoy the "Plantation Walker" gaits. The special shoes and equipement are ALL for the show ring and the bad practices have been ignored by authorities for WAY too long.
    I say, "Hang 'Em High!!"
    We currently own three walkers and all the other are non-gaited. I have only been into walkers for the last three years but as a kid my babysitters were breeders and showers and they had one world champion stud and another stud that was the full brother to a world champion. There are several heavy breeders and showers in my are along with a TON of trail and endurance riders.

    We have two ex-show TWH. My husbands which has a fairly nice gait, he isnt very fast in his gait and then one mare who has some conformation issues but has a running walk to die for. The other mare I started from a 2 yo and she can flat out fly. She running walks, paces, and racks.

    From what I have experienced with the trainers in my area I wouldnt consider them abusive but I also live in a VERY small town. I am not exposed to bigger breeders and showers. I will look up and research more into the abuse side of it because I have never seen it in an abusive aspect.

    I do however remember being 5-6yo having to walk around and pick up rocks/sticks etc so that when my babysitters husband rode one of the studs padded up he wouldnt get hurt. I also remember some contraption on his tail to make his tail stand up. They said they "broke" his tail in order to have it stand up 24/7. They always had gauze around it and it in some sort of brace. IDK Im trying to recall things from being young.
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        06-03-2013, 06:41 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Guilherme    
    They have been bred for almost half a century to be compatible with the devices,
    and how insane is that?

    Even if every one of these horses had to be shipped to slaughter because they had "no other value," I would still approve of shutting down the industry. At least we would be able to move forward from there.
         
        06-03-2013, 07:13 PM
      #15
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by toosexy4myspotz    
    We currently own three walkers and all the other are non-gaited. I have only been into walkers for the last three years but as a kid my babysitters were breeders and showers and they had one world champion stud and another stud that was the full brother to a world champion. There are several heavy breeders and showers in my are along with a TON of trail and endurance riders.

    We have two ex-show TWH. My husbands which has a fairly nice gait, he isnt very fast in his gait and then one mare who has some conformation issues but has a running walk to die for. The other mare I started from a 2 yo and she can flat out fly. She running walks, paces, and racks.

    From what I have experienced with the trainers in my area I wouldnt consider them abusive but I also live in a VERY small town. I am not exposed to bigger breeders and showers. I will look up and research more into the abuse side of it because I have never seen it in an abusive aspect.

    I do however remember being 5-6yo having to walk around and pick up rocks/sticks etc so that when my babysitters husband rode one of the studs padded up he wouldnt get hurt. I also remember some contraption on his tail to make his tail stand up. They said they "broke" his tail in order to have it stand up 24/7. They always had gauze around it and it in some sort of brace. IDK Im trying to recall things from being young.
    Some of us who have posted on several of the abuse threads of the TWH's have said that part of the issue is the people just like you who have grown up in this world and see nothing wrong with it. Those of us on the outside looking in see a LOT wrong.
         
        06-03-2013, 07:31 PM
      #16
    Started
    Think about the temperament those abused walkers must have. I'm certain my QH would have killed somebody attempting anything remotely like that.

    My TWH mare is show bred. Yes she is pacey. I see no evidence of soring on her, rather I suspect she was a broodmare that didn't perform as expected and was broke for a quick sale. Odd gaps in what she seems to know. Still she is calm and sensible and makes a lovely trail horse. The gaits are all there we just need to work on it more. I don't get a lot of riding time so I've mostly concentrated on brakes and steering.

    I'm sure more than a few would make nice pet horses. I've never had one that was so sweet and easy to work around. Even more laid back than my Belgians were.
         
        06-03-2013, 07:59 PM
      #17
    Trained
    They have wonderful temperments. My guy is 1/2 TWH. I also am friends with a breeder in Va, so I am not totally uneducated about them. He uses them as pleasure mounts, and is extremely picky about who he sells to. His horses are all barefoot. So they are more then "nice pets". THey are good trail horses and serve a multitude of purposes, and are lovely without all the crap that can is done to them.
         
        06-03-2013, 08:08 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    I have a hard time considering what he does abuse. I know people don't like to see a horse padded up but if done so properly and a horse is conditioned to it then it isnt any worse than jumping an unprepared horse. The tail thing is blown out of proportion IMO. If they carry a high pretty tail set then so be it but if they don't, don't mess with it. It completely disables a horses tail the rest of their life.

    This one guy, in particular, has some amazing horses. They arent just show horses and they arent always padded. I still know him personally. All of his horses have very laid back dispositions. They are all very willing and trustworthy. They are also very respectful of any and all human beings. I have never noticed any sores or anything on any of his horses when we go over their. (we ride a lot with him and his family).

    I just don't know whether I percieve padding a walker up to be as harmful as everyone thinks.

    BTW corporal I am having a hard time finding any threads about the TWH Abuse. Im not good at searching on her anyway but everything I get comes up way off topic.

    Im not saying there is no abuse in it but there is abuse in every dicsipline. From what I have seen in person (not online) I don't see how padding them up is abusive. Does it make the horse sore? Maybe, maybe not. I have NEVER seen chains on them before tho. I have also never seen a walker padded 24/7. I do know that some people have pads put on that are left on just like shoes but I have never seen it. I have only seen the ones you put on before and take off afterwards.

    I don't know. I will do more research before I will truly say what I believe.
         
        06-03-2013, 08:27 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    ooh boo hoo, hope everyone of those cretins go bankrupt.
    Couldn't have said it better myself.
         
        06-03-2013, 08:28 PM
      #20
    Trained
    Here you go sexy. Just one of many.

    ABC news investigative report on TWH abuse.
         

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