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post #31 of 41 Old 06-05-2013, 12:03 PM
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Dear Terry Dotson:

Don't let the door hit you on the butt on your way out.

The true Tennessee Walking Horse will be better off without people like you.

If your horses aren't fit to compete without pads, action devices, and whatever other methods you're using to create the Big Lick. . .that's no one's fault but your own.

Get out of the industry already.
You should mail that to him. Hehe
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post #32 of 41 Old 06-05-2013, 12:15 PM
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That's just sickening. In the area I live there is a lot of the Big Lick stuff, a barn very close to me has 15 or so horses that do it. I would much rather see a naturally moving TWH than one like that. Makes me sad for the horses. :(

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post #33 of 41 Old 06-05-2013, 12:30 PM
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I wish they would ban the owners and trainers that do that from showing permanently. I'd like to ban them from owning too but that can't really be done. The other could.
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I wish they would ban the owners and trainers that do that from showing permanently. I'd like to ban them from owning too but that can't really be done. The other could.
Some years back Bob Cherry, former president of TWHBEA and an aggressive Big Lick supporter, stated in an editorial in the VOICE that a trainer getting a citation from a DQP was like getting a speeding ticket for a truck driver. It was just a hazard of the business.

I responded in a couple of TWH chat rooms/forums that a DQP ticket was much more like a DUI than speeding, in that it indicated an injury to the horse that was done with malice aforethought. It wasn't just a failure to see a sign.

Cherry then spend another entire editorial attacking my DUI theory and being quite insulting while he did it.

This attitude persists even unto today, as demonstrated by Mr. Dotson's comments.

These folks genuinely don't see what they do as harmful. They, in fact, see it as a beautiful expression of the highest and best qualities of the TWH. There are lots of analogs of this attitude in other segments of the horse industry. The TWH world stands out for it's widespread defense of the indefensible.

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post #35 of 41 Old 06-05-2013, 04:06 PM
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The TWH world stands out for it's widespread defense of the indefensible.
I love this statement. As true as true can be.
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post #36 of 41 Old 06-11-2013, 04:05 PM
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Why not just put limits on how high the front legs can lift?
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post #37 of 41 Old 06-12-2013, 07:30 AM
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These folks genuinely don't see what they do as harmful. They, in fact, see it as a beautiful expression of the highest and best qualities of the TWH.
Boy is this the Gospel Truth.

I live 12 miles from WHTA Headquarters. I can't tell you how many farriers in my county have said exactly that

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post #38 of 41 Old 06-12-2013, 07:45 AM
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I wish they would ban the owners and trainers that do that from showing permanently. I'd like to ban them from owning too but that can't really be done. The other could.
And there in lies the hypocrisy of tracy boyd and other senior members of the TWHBEA, pay lip service to being against soring but continue to allow these people to show and be members of the organization. He actually emailed me and said they had a zero tolerance policy, Yet have there ever been any lifetime bans ?
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post #39 of 41 Old 06-12-2013, 11:19 AM
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What gets me is that the leaders of the TWHBEA have convinced themselves, and many of their members, that the entire breed's existence will be at risk of disappearing if the Big Lick/performance classes were stopped.

I don't think it's just a lie to them. . .they really do think that the Big Lick is what keeps the breed going. Sadly, the truth is that the Big Lick is what is causing such a rift in the industry. . .and what's causing so many people to withdraw support.

Why support an organization that doesn't support the majority of its own members, because it's so busy promoting the flashy, artificial movement of the Big Lick?

I'd be interested to see what percentage of TWH's that are actually registered with the TWHBEA take part in Big Lick classes. . .versus those that show flat/natural. . .versus those horses that are kept and ridden strictly as pleasure/trail horses?

My guess is that there are way more "pleasure" horses out there than Big Lick horses. And our money is just as good. . .and we can just as easily spend it elsewhere if they want to keep promoting the Freak Show.

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post #40 of 41 Old 06-12-2013, 12:00 PM
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In truth, the money from the Performance Division largely does float the TWHBEA.

How many here have stated, quite openly, that they don't register their horses on sale? No matter the reason the transfer is not registered. That deprives the Assn.. of a significant stream of revenue. Performance owners, on the other hand, ALWAYS register (unless the horse is being retired, culled, or otherwise removed from the Performance string). This fact of life gives the Performance folks a pretty big stick inside the Assn. In this sense the ending of the Performance Horse Division has the potential of dire consequences for TWHBEA.

A proposal has been made to buy the Performance Division from TWHBEA (including the registration database) and then set up a new assn. Dedicated to the Performance Horse. I don't know where this proposal "is" in terms of discussion, but it has been made.

This is not a "ban it and it will go away" situation. Elimination of the pads, chains, etc. would be major step in the right direction; it will be but one step on a much longer journey.

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