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        11-12-2012, 06:18 PM
      #141
    Green Broke
    I wonder if she goes quietly in a group? I wonder how much she has been ridden on her own before you got her? I bet this is nothing more than lacking miles...
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        11-12-2012, 07:20 PM
      #142
    Yearling
    And that is exactly why I wanted Mike to ride her on the trails before I did. It may be that she'll be fine in a group. That's good. It may be that all she needs is miles...that's not so good, because I'm not sure I'm the one to put miles on her. I was once. But now, I need miles put on me also.

    Right now I'm chalking it up to being in a strange place for the first time in YEARS. She was just getting used to the farm, and then I hauled her off to Mike's. I'm making excuses for her because I REALLY like this horse. It's my hope that she will settle in and be fine on the trail with me, my husband and his horse. If that doesn't happen, I'll have to sell her because I really need a confidence builder and I can't build my confidence and hers at the same time. Maybe a couple years ago...but not now. Like I said: It's my brain that's at fault here, not the horse.
         
        11-12-2012, 09:20 PM
      #143
    Weanling
    I understand your fear, but let me just say this, Rockies have a fast walk. It will always outpace a QH or most other gaited breeds. Have your friend Mike work on slowing her down into a trail walk. A nice slow walk slow enough to make you comfortable. Is your husbands horse good enough for you to ride, because if you feel safe with his horse (or any other horse you would feel safe borrowing.) I highly recommend you ride that horse on the trail with Mike on Blossom. This is what I do when I am unsure of a horse. I go on the trail ride with my trainer riding them that first time. That way I know what type of shying may happen, how they react when given unknown situations and what to do to slow them down.

    The one good thing is that if this doesn't work out you have been given the offer that they want her back.

    I so wish you could meet my little palomino KMH mare who put me back in the saddle after a bad riding accident. She doesn't care where she is in the pack or how far ahead the other horses are. She's met turkeys and deer jumping beside her and couldn't care less. Do I ride her along roads, no, I don't worry about her, but I worry what my reaction will be and don't trust myself to do the right thing so I am sticking strictly to equestrian parks for now.
         
        11-12-2012, 11:45 PM
      #144
    Weanling
    HagonNag,
    I just caught a glimpse of this thread, then I read only your posts. Your words do not match what you are trying to say. I see fear inside that body of yours when it comes to this horse. You are making excuses, that should not be necessary, if this horse met your expectation. Before you get hurt, I'd do a real serious reality check. Your inner fears will be felt by the horse in a heart beat, and that will make for an excitement, I'm sure, you do not want.

    It is obvious you want this horse to work out, but your words do not match what is necessary to make that happen. Your first impressions of this horse when it arrived at your farm were not good, and first impressions are very hard to overcome.

    You have convinced me, that this horse, is very excitable, and probably spooky. I know you have spent a lot of time and probably a lot of money. But don't let that overshadow a true reality check.

    Not trying to be negative, just telling it as I read your words, and especially what I read between the lines. I see an accident waiting to happen.

    There are many a horse out there that will install confidence in you, and you in them. That's the kind of horse, I believe, your looking for.
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        11-15-2012, 08:40 AM
      #145
    Green Broke
    I haven't been keeping up because I keep getting booted off and I'm weary of logging in, almost every time<----------whine whine whine

    Your story AND purchase could almost mirror what happened to my good friend and life long trail rider. Except it took her YEARS to get back on a horse.

    We're all from the OH/PA border; when I moved to SoCal (took my horses with me), a few of the gals flew out to spend a week. My trail riding bud announced she wanted to ride in the rock hills because it was something she'd never get to do again. You could've heard a pin drop

    She wanted to ride Duke, the horse in my avatar. Duke's a big motored full of go-go-go horse but, he doesn't shy at anything and if you know how to ride, he listens. She insisted on riding him barebacklol

    Duke was perfect, we rode every morning, giving back to my friend the confidence she had lost years earlier. She wanted to buy him a plane ticket back to PA and teared up pretty good at leaving HIM, not me

    When I say years earlier, I mean none of our kids were old enough to drive when her accident happened. Some of the gals had grandchildren by the time she came to visit and decided it was time to get back on a horse and that horse had to be Duke.

    It took her several years and as many horses to find the horse she has now.

    A KMSHA, bought in KY, like yours. He was 8 years old and had never been off the farm where he'd been born.

    He was skittish and jumpy when my friend started riding him off the property.

    They experienced the same exact things you are experiencing, with my friend even sending him to a trainer (for your very reasons).

    She ended up selling him and regretted it, immediately. A few months later, the lady called to describe all the things my friend and you, had and are experiencing.

    My friend bought him back, looked his beautiful Buckskin self in the eye and said "Gilley, we WILL work this out". That was the moment that changed everything - my friend making up her mind, she'd had enough of her self.

    That was also around three years ago and they've been slogging thru knee-deep mud, riding along motorcyces on poker runs in the Allegheny National Forest of PA, ever since.

    Point-being, you hang in there with this horse. It took my friend (who is not a fearful or timid person) years to conquer her very serious horse accident. Nothing changed her horse until SHE changed and the only thing that will part them now is, well -----the inevitable.

    Except for the type of injuries, your recovery is so similar to my friend, I thought this might help but truthfully, the only thing that will help is the day you wake up and say "I have had IT and I'm going to enjoy riding again

    One thing my friend did do that really helped was to get a custom-made saddle from Steele Saddles. Yeah, she spent nearly $3,000 but she said I have earned this in my old age; I want the saddle to be a perfect fit for both of us. The saddle is that but more importantly it's a perfect fit in her head which, in turn, helped to release the last of her riding fears
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        11-15-2012, 11:00 AM
      #146
    Weanling
    Chin up, I know how you feel. I got Sable, my first horse in 10 years and the first ever to be trained by me, I was riding a different horse one day and it bucked me, I was unconscioius for just about 5 minutes and woke up without much memory of the day for an hour or so. I was terrified to ride my horse after that because even though she was not the one to throw me -she was young, inexperienced, and I did not want to be hurt again. I took baby steps (as my riding buddies will tell you) slowing everyone down, not as brave to go through some of the things I would have easily taken on before that. I worked through it, slow but sure, and today I have the confidence to do what I want to do on my horse. It will come.
    My gut tells me that Blossom has little to no experience with tractors, vehicles, riding alone etc. What she is doing is normal, most of our horses shy at those things for the first while -I spun sable across an entire 4 mile field because a tractor carrying a bale was at the other end of it -at the end of this summer we rode behind a tractor for about 3 miles on the way back to the farm. I think it is smart to have Mike take her through those things as to build her confidence she needs confidence on top of her. Once gets used to these new experiences she wil likely be a dream for you.
    If she is the relaxed type of horse, is she an easy keeper? My mare is an extremely easy keeper and is very solid in her mind, but when she is given extra feed or a rich feed without getting enough work to burn it all off, she jumps at nearly everything. My friend described her to me as looking like she just had 5 cups of coffee. Lol Perhaps you can also look at the feed she is having and adjust there?

    Anyways keep positive, if you love her as much as it sounds, it will all work out because you are willing to make it work.

    Goodluck!
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        11-15-2012, 12:31 PM
      #147
    Showing
    Walkinthewalk, you need to keep one very important thing in mind - age. The difference in your friend's age and Pat's are probably very different. The older you are, the more fearful you become, the more you splat rather then bounce, and the less time in life there is to ride.

    Pat is in my age group and there is no longer the luxury of waiting years to overcome the anxiety and lack of confidence. She needs a made horse, not one that has the potential of being perfect. This isn't a Black Stallion moment where love conquers all adversity. This is an older, less confident rider who needs a horse that is ready to go, not one that could ultimately be ready.

    We will be trail riding this weekend with Mike on Blossom so she will be in a group. That will tell us what happens next with her horse.
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        11-15-2012, 12:47 PM
      #148
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by iridehorses    
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    We will be trail riding this weekend with Mike on Blossom so she will be in a group. That will tell us what happens next with her horse.
    Please be sure to let us know how that goes -- my guess is that it will be a successful adventure. And, of course, pictures are always great favourites. If you would, please pass on my sincere good wishes to HagonNag that all goes well with Mike and Blossom.
         
        11-15-2012, 01:05 PM
      #149
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iridehorses    
    Walkinthewalk, you need to keep one very important thing in mind - age. The difference in your friend's age and Pat's are probably very different. The older you are, the more fearful you become, the more you splat rather then bounce, and the less time in life there is to ride.

    Pat is in my age group and there is no longer the luxury of waiting years to overcome the anxiety and lack of confidence. She needs a made horse, not one that has the potential of being perfect. This isn't a Black Stallion moment where love conquers all adversity. This is an older, less confident rider who needs a horse that is ready to go, not one that could ultimately be ready.

    We will be trail riding this weekend with Mike on Blossom so she will be in a group. That will tell us what happens next with her horse.
    We were in our 40's when the accident of all accidents happened. She was 50 when she got my Duke in California.

    It has indeed been a long and agonizing process for her - especially since she was raised around horses her entire life.

    We are now 65 so my friend was just into her 60's when that Epiphany came. She is also a 12 year breast cancer survivor - she's One Tough Cookie
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        11-15-2012, 08:19 PM
      #150
    Super Moderator
    I had a really nice reply typed up for Hag about the rocky start with my Rocky (no pun intended) then realized it was three pages!
    I decided to spare you all and sent it to her directly (and am awaiting a scathing reply about the length.)

    The jist of it was the rought start I had with my Rocky and a terrible experience I had from being attacked by another horse years before.
    Maybe some of things I wrote will give her some ideas, but ultimately she needs to be comfortable with Blossom or whichever is the right horse is for her.
    Blossom seems like a nice horse, but whichever way you decide I just wanted you to know I'm sending supportive thoughts.
    Hope the ride this weekend goes well for her though.
         

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