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post #151 of 187 Old 11-16-2012, 10:29 AM Thread Starter
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Thank y'all for your kind words.

This is rather surprising to me because I have conquered fear in the past. MANY years ago, I had a bad fall and broke all the ribs on my left side and punctured a lung. The difference being that the emergency room sent me home and told me to see the Dr. in the am....who was absolutely astounded and slapped me in the hospital with a punctured lung...where I sat for about 4 days with a chest tube! This happened on a horse that was new to me, and I was fairly new to riding. It took a long time to get my nerve back mainly because I was stupid and kept trying to work with that horse --- and we wern't suited for each other.

So when Mr. Big Stuff almost killed me, I was grateful to be alive and really thought to myself that since I had done this once before, this time would be a snap! Especially since he had always been such a PITA that I thought if I can handle him, I can CERTAINLY deal with a dead broke, calm horse. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that my hard-won confidence had fled??

Blossom is nothing that a normal, confident rider couldn't handle. There is not a mean bone in her body. She isn't willful, opinionated and a general bad actor like Big was. I have made the determination that I WILL ride. I'm just not entirely sure that I want to ride a horse that spooks at squirrels! I'm not talking about a horse that just spooks in place...stops and listens. I'm talking about a mare that jumped sideways and almost knocked me down....over a squirrel rustling in the woods.

I just have entirely too much imagination. If a squirrel sets her off, what will happen when a deer jumps out in front of us? I am no longer young and convinced that I'm invincible. I'm very aware that horses are animals, not machines, and that unplanned things happen in the woods and/or on the trail.
I merely want to stack the deck as much as possible in my favor. I was told her favorite gait was a walk and you had to urge her to go faster, and practically DEMAND speed from her with the sight of a crop. Great: A slow, calm mare, slightly lazy. Just the speed for an old lady who really doesn't want any excitement. And that's what I rode when I climbed on her in Kentucky.

I don't know if it's the change in location but she's a different horse in SC. I'm HOPING that she will calm down. She shows signs that encourage me. She walks around the parked cars, she walks past a tractor...while it's running and shows no signs of nervousness at all. Yet a squirrel or moving traffic unhinges her? I'm HOPING she just needs to get used to things. If she's good with Mike, Bill and Jim on this ride on Saturday, I'll be encouraged.

Mike (the trainer's) pasture has a railroad track running down one side with a long train coming through every other day... and a road with traffic that crosses the railroad. Not a ton of traffic, but traffic. She'll either get used to the noise and movement or she won't.

I can work with Blossom in the round pen and on the farm, BUT...I wouldn't be comfortable riding a trail horse that spooked at squirrels even if I was back in my usual form. And I'm not. I'm far from it. So, we'll see. It will be a work in progresss. If her owner/breeder misjudged her, and she is skittish and spooky in new places and not the laidback, experienced horse I expected, then I'll re-home her with her original owner, or someone braver, and start looking again.

BOTH of us can't be fearful. I'm intent on getting my confidence back and right now I don't have a lot of it to share with a fearful horse. With all his faults, (and they were legion) Mr. Big Stuff had not one ounce of fear in his body. It was rather like riding a small earth mover: point him and he went.
I have little or no experience with a reactive, sensitive horse. I'm reduced to using a local phrase: If she settles, I might could manage...we'll have to see.
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post #152 of 187 Old 11-16-2012, 11:03 AM
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Praying that all goes well this W/E. I do hope that she becomes used to her new surroundings & you two become a great team.
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post #153 of 187 Old 11-16-2012, 12:42 PM
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... I'm very aware that horses are animals, not machines, and that unplanned things happen in the woods and/or on the trail...

Funny you should say that. We were moving some hay yesterday with the quad and sled and I took a header into the quad and it was parked -- you can't even trust machinery.

I merely want to stack the deck as much as possible in my favor.

And I think you're doing everything right to get there. You will prevail.
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post #154 of 187 Old 11-17-2012, 03:29 AM Thread Starter
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I want to PUBLICLY thank you for your long private message/s! Don't EVER worry about being too long: I read fast! LOL They were extremely helpful, the only problem being that I found myself eating cookies while reading and neither my scales nor my doctor will be pleased. I've got to lay in a supply of celery. The scales can be replaced, but the doctor I've grown rather fond of and he's sort of touchy about compliance.
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post #155 of 187 Old 11-17-2012, 03:43 AM Thread Starter
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While I'm up at this ungodly early hour, I also want to thank everyone who's followed along and sustained me with helpful advice, encouragement or much needed common sense! I don't know what I'd do without my forum friends. I'd love to list all your names, but I'm terrified that I'd leave someone out. Many have been with me since my accident in July and some are fairly new, but I want you all to know that I'm absolutely blown away by the flowers, prayers, good wishes, kind thoughts and concern y'all have shown for me. This forum is a very special place, filled with special people.

And now...on to our regular programming (tears are SO sloppy!..LOL)

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post #156 of 187 Old 11-17-2012, 12:14 PM
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after 20 years of and working twh horses for tail riding and normal horse riding. its not the typical twh thats not hotter then most would want as a gentle riding horses.with age and lots of steady miles most get pretty good. i have had some really gentle ones from the start. but it wasnt normal. back to quarter horses now just for fun. i do miss the walk but i love the low head set and easy going nature.
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post #157 of 187 Old 11-17-2012, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by montcowboy View Post
its not the typical twh thats not hotter then most would want as a gentle riding horses.
Interesting, I found the opposite to be true with TWH. Most are too laid back and lazy to make good trail horses. I gave up on TWH for trail horses years ago. When we switches from trotting horses to gaited horses we were told the TWH was the best. Spent several years trying to get them to work out. Went thru over 50 head of the rascal in the 6 to 8 years we tried them. Switched to racking horses and have been there ever since. Smoother, easier going, more athletic, more naturally gaited, less spooks, just plain better trail horses.

It is true there are some real hot bloods in the TWH, but the lazy, really laid back ones out number the hot bloods by a bunch. The hot bloods are usually the result of show folks inbreeding or breeding too hot to too hot, to try and get the big lick show horse.

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post #158 of 187 Old 11-17-2012, 06:15 PM
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Im hoping your trail ride went well. I had a bad accident several years ago on my first horse ( not Rocky) and it shattered my confidence. I was so embarassed to discover that even a simple canter made me freeze in a defensive position. And if the horse so much as stumbled a bit, i would panic. Ive regained much of my confidence, but it took a lot of time on a special little bombproof pony to get me there. And then i found Rocky and i discovered that i could still do the things i used to and work with a not so bombproof horse. But it was definitely baby steps.
Ive been so impressed with your recovery and i really do hope you and Blossom work out. Hoping to see some pixtures of this ride... :)
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post #159 of 187 Old 11-17-2012, 06:39 PM
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Oh Hon, I know how you are feeling about the spooky stuff! Really, a squirrel? Come on!
I got DD a horse last year, for her and a backup for me. He's 16 grade and cute. Man I got him from used him for kids to ride at cowboy church and for his 12 year old niece to ride the trails. So supposedly dead dead broke. I rode him all over their place in a halter and lead before I got him, not a wrong step.
Get him home, let him settle a few days and then got him warmed up for the kid to ride one day. WOW, learned I still had the glue butt I had when I was 20!!! He spooked at something, lept 20 feet to the left thank heavens, and bolted a short ways. If he had gone to the right my right arm (injured in the wreck) wouldn't have held and I'd have been eating dirt.

So I know how you feel getting a horse home that's supposed to be just right and then they do something stupid. And scary! I almost wanted to cry thinking GREAT I bought a horse for my kid that I can't even ride! Ahhhh!! He settled down after a month or so, but I took him on lots of walks and long grooming sessions before I let the kid on!
Blossom was at the former place most of her life right? I bet she is still on guard. Hope the guys have/had a good ride?
Hang in there! And you don't feel bad if you want to take her back. YOU are more precious than any horse!
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post #160 of 187 Old 11-18-2012, 07:18 AM
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There were 5 of us out on the ride including Blossom. We were out for about 4 hours and Blossom was placed in different spots in the group - sometimes out front, but sometimes in the middle or at the end. There were 2 gaited horses, 1 QH, 1 TB, and my Paint. We rode up and down hills, across bridges, water, downed brush, along the beach at Lake Hartwell, past other riders, past bikes, and hikers, she did absolutely nothing wrong. At one point she was riding next to the TB (with Jim, Pat's DH up on the TB) and Jim asked Mike if he could take off at a canter, Mike OK'd it and Jim took off. Blossom just let Jim go with no anxiety at all.

I was the one with the problem since Bonnie had to trot a good amount of the way (I was wishing that I had Joey on the ride since my back was really acting up). There was nothing that I would change about the way Blossom behaved. She would slow down when asked or speed up when she was allowed, She had no trouble waiting at the road while cars went by, so we could cross the streets.

She got a good one. She may have been very forward when she was alone, but with the confidence of the group, she was perfect.

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