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post #11 of 16 Old 01-03-2012, 03:56 PM
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All great advice.

Just would like to re-emphasize the TWH doesn't even need keg shoes for the trails.

When I was hard trail riding one of my horses wore rim shoes with borium head nails. His hooves were trimmed in a normal fashion that one would expect to see on any trail horse.

The other TWH has hooves like a goat and has been ridden barefoot in some pretty rough places much of his life. He even has a less-than-grade 1 club hoof but never sored up.

Also want to re-emphasize that it is not a good idea to shorten his toes/heels up too fast. That can lead not only to soring the hoof but soring the tendons.

Your friend still has all winter to get his "wiggies" trail ready; just do what's right and makes sense for this particular horse (meaning shod or barefoot)
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post #12 of 16 Old 01-04-2012, 12:10 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all your input. I forwarded it to my friend and when her farrier came out today, she said she felt so much better because as he was explaining things to her, she understood what he was talking about. He found that his angles were uneven and he doesn't have much heel in the back. He trimmed and balanced him but didn't take too much, said it will take 3-4 mos. to get him down to where he needs to be, but didn't want to change things too drastically and bow a tendon. She's got her first lesson with a gaited trainer who comes highly recommended, this Friday :) She's really excited.

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post #13 of 16 Old 01-04-2012, 12:24 AM
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Thank you for the information guys..Being new in here really helps me a lot.
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post #14 of 16 Old 01-07-2012, 09:25 PM
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same problem at my farm

Bought a really nice X show gelding (magic mind push) for my boyfriend to ride. He actually looks nearly identical to your friends walker. He does the exact same thing, and forges often. We also had to retrain some of the spook out of him, locally its common for walkers to be trained to be excited when used for showing, but once he figured out we are a relaxed easy going bunch he calmed right down. Went from charging during mounting to calmly standing for mounting and it took just a few trys to get him to understand. We took him to my favorite farrier who is a menonite and has done shoeing his whole life. He rides walkers himself so he knew just what to do for the fix. Pretty much the suggestion of changing angles slowly is what we are doing and it is helping...Magic has been for one shoeing and is due for his second now. also we have been concentrating on gaiting slower but with more collection which is helping. He does still forge but not nearly so bad as when we first got him, his toes were so long he was actually stepping on his front toes!!! At any rate we are happy and he is happy so all is well that ends well. Also we shoed him with kegs with borium since we trail sometimes across roads and rocky dirt trails.
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post #15 of 16 Old 03-05-2012, 05:24 PM
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Keep in mind also that twh's are bred to have a long stride and the over reach in some is natural. I've had horses forge barefoot naturally. Another thing to consider is that as you change the angles and length's of his hooves is that his gait may alter as well. I have one mare that will pace the teeth out of your head unless her angles are managed very specifically. If she's wanting to stop the forging she'll be shortening his stride which will ultimatly change how he gaits. It may or may not still be smooth. There's really so many factors that go into it. A good farrier should ask her how he's gaiting beforehand and will watch him gait after to help ensure that they have not altered their angles such that the ride will be uncomfortable for her or the horse.

I've also noticed that when the horses are show trained exclusively that their usually in an arena only and therefore always on steady ground. Then when you take them outside their stumbling a lot because their not used to that type of terrain. Like everything its going to take time and training. (This is not breed specific, I've seen this in multiple breeds.)
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post #16 of 16 Old 03-05-2012, 05:38 PM
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a very well gaited TWH is likely more stumbly on the trails than a MFT or step pacer. TWH were designed to go fast on long flat distances on plantations to cover a lot of farm land as fast as possible (as far as I know anyways) so rockier rougher terrain is not as easy for their stride as they drag that back toe forward when they stride. That being said, you can train them to be sure footed, we take all our show horses on the trails and the more the ride out the more sure footed they become as they pay attention...they can sure rip on the flats though! Angles are definitely important, on the TWHBEA website they actually have a chart showing the angles for different types of strides. Take a look. Go down to "Miscellaneous Forms" --> 'Shoe Chart' TWHBEA | Association
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