training pasos for pleasure vs. show

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training pasos for pleasure vs. show

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    02-18-2011, 10:28 PM
training pasos for pleasure vs. show

If you had a young paso and you were only planning on pleasure riding...would you train it differently than if you were planning to show? Is there a difference in how you train a paso for show vs. for pleasure? I have no idea, I am new to the breed and just starting to learn.
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    02-20-2011, 04:40 PM
Hello Dirty Martini. I'm not a trainer but I do own 2 Peruvian Horses. My mare is 8 yrs old this May and was trained for trail. Because of her trail training she just so happens to do beautifully in the show ring. I think if they are good and secure on the trail then the show ring will be a piece of cake for them. As far as training them to hold there head a certain way and go at a certain gait, if they do it on the trail they can do it in the ring. The only difference I have noticed in ring horses and trail horses is the ring horses don't always do as well on the trails, but the trail horses can do as well in the ring. Does this help?
    02-20-2011, 10:11 PM
Thank you for the response, Deej! Yes, very helpful.

This is my issue...I have a boarder here, it is a 2 year old paso filly. She is SO SWEET and SO SMART...I am blown away by her! I grew up showing hunter/jumper...but also loved to just trail ride. There were pasos in my neighborhood, but I never liked them...always seemed like macho latin guys making the horses prance up and down the road just to hear their hooves "clickity clack." Just wasn't my cup of tea. Plus, I was always told (an also witnessed) that pasos had a not-so-nice temperment. I am now realizing the temperment thing is because a lot of these guys make the horses crazy!

So....this filly...she is here at my barn for 2 years, then when she is 4 she is going for "training." She has excellent bloodlines and I think the owner sees her as a money maker (he owns about 10 or 15 pasos right now. He is not a horse lover, but rather a horse business man.) If she goes for training and does not show promise, I could very possibly be given her, or sold for a very cheap price. I, personally, just want something to trot around the neighborhood on. I just worry that the show training will "ruin" her. Does that make sense? Am I overthinking this?

I have had many horses in my life. This one really has a personality and a sweet temperment that I cannot explain. You know how some horse you just bond with? This is one of those!
    02-20-2011, 10:12 PM
BTW, no one comes out to visit her or work with her (which was part of the understanding, I am not faulting them for that.) I am the one who lounges her, bathes her, picks her hooves...I am just bonding with her so much, and for such a young age she is so smart and non spooky and such a pleasure.
    02-20-2011, 10:34 PM
The show ring will not ruin her. You are over thinking this. When they train these horses it is regular riding and all kinds they just don't go around and around in a ring. You didn't say if it is a Peruvain or a Fino but I have been to many Peruvian stables and they get lots of trail exp.
    02-20-2011, 10:53 PM
Originally Posted by churumbeque    
The show ring will not ruin her. You are over thinking this. When they train these horses it is regular riding and all kinds they just don't go around and around in a ring. You didn't say if it is a Peruvain or a Fino but I have been to many Peruvian stables and they get lots of trail exp.
Hi Chur!

It is a paso, not peruvian. I know the gaits are natural...but I assumed they take time to "perfect" the gaits if they are training them for show. I just see some pasos that look like they are a ball of pent up frustration. This horse is so sweet, I hope she is not affected by training that she will eventually never use. It is not up to me, though. Sooo, I just have to wait and see what happens with her.

Thank you!
    02-20-2011, 10:54 PM
Should have said "training she ***MAY*** eventually never use."
    02-21-2011, 10:28 AM
The Paso Fino is horse bred to be what it is. The "presence" that you see is not, necessarily, the result of people "making the horse crazy" but rather the selection for a particular temperment. I knew a lady in GA who was German by birth and training and trained a Paso Fino for the Dressage ring. She never won anything but she had one hellaciously well trained horse. And it showed the standard "I'm about to blow up" temperment but it never did. I had the chance to ride it once and it was like riding a ticking bomb. But the bomb never went off because it was trained not to.

I've never been involved in training a Paso Fino and don't know the gaits well at all. It's very different from most other North or South American gaited breeds in its way of going.

It might be worthwhile to consult with a real Paso Fino trainer to help evaluate the horse (and its relative value as a Paso Fino) and then set up a training program.

    02-21-2011, 10:41 AM
Wow, a paso doing dessage! I am amazed at the versatility. I have been googling and seeing pasos doing barrels and roping, and also jumping. Like I said, I have only seen one style of paso riding in South Fl, so I had no idea.

I see what you mean, kind of like, which came first, the chicken or the egg. I assumed that the successful show horses are trained to be a ball of frusrated energy, but maybe it is that the successful show horses have that temperment already and that is what makes them so successful.

It is all so interesting to me.
    02-21-2011, 11:26 AM
Agreeing with Guilherme in that consulting a Paso Fino trainer would be a good idea. The Latin trainers that I have known do a good job of show training but know little of trail training. I DO NOT approve of their training style but respect the finished horse. As far as the Blow up thing.... I'm not familiar with the Paso Finos But in the Peruvian Horses its called Brio and it is a CONTROLED enthusiasm. Its natural and it just feels like that because of the way their feet are moving. {BTW The Peruvian owners have dropped the Paso in the name due to the constant confusion with the Paso Fino... Hence,,, Peruvian Horse is now the politically correct way to refer to the Peruvian Horse..} At any rate I don't think training this nice little girl will ruin her but will make her a more well rounded trail horse. I Have known several ex show horses that are now trail horses. It took them awhil to settle down on the trail but eventually learned to love the trails. Its a lot less stressful for them. Good luck with this Paso and I do hope you can get her. She sounds like a great little horse and it sounds like she would be lucky to have you!

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