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    08-15-2012, 02:02 PM
  #1
Foal
Twh

I was wonder if I could Ride my walker in a reining bit like this one
Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Billy Allen Reining Bit
I have gaited bits but they are ones with spoons and ment for paso's
I have read about using tom thumbs but I really do not like those bits in general.
Any advice would be great. I know I should look into getting her a gaited bit but I don't want to wait to ride her.
     
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    08-15-2012, 02:26 PM
  #2
Weanling
Many horses have a shallow pallet(floor of the mouth). A bit that does not allow for tongue clearance my be very uncomfortable and can cause behavior problems.

The bit your looking at has no tongue relieve at all.

I use a toklat #89-20015 S.S. HBT 5" Shank w/5" S.I. 01 C.I. Mouth, on most of my horses. It is a very mild bit. And if the horse is properly trained gives plenty of control, without pinching the tongue.

Let's see if I can post a picture of the mouth piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/bbsmfg3/mb01.jpg
     
    08-15-2012, 02:36 PM
  #3
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbsmfg3    
Many horses have a shallow pallet(floor of the mouth). A bit that does not allow for tongue clearance my be very uncomfortable and can cause behavior problems.

The bit your looking at has not tongue relieve at all.

I use a toklat #89-20015 S.S. HBT 5" Shank w/5" S.I. 01 C.I. Mouth, on most of my horses. It is a very mild bit. And if the horse is properly trained gives plenty of control, without pinching the tongue.

Let's see if I can post a picture of the mouth piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/bbsmfg3/mb01.jpg
I use that bit on my quarter, would a myler bit be okay? I want to ride this mare today, I don't want to put anything in her mouth that will cause problems
the myler I have looks kinda like this
Pleasant Hills Saddle - Online Horse Tack: Myler Western HBT Shank with (06) Mullen Barrel Low Port
     
    08-15-2012, 02:47 PM
  #4
Started
If you have light hands you can ride him in any bit you have I am sure. I have never understood what a "gaited" bit is for.. Most look like long shanked curbs to me. ;) Reiner bits would be designed for very light contact when asking for a stop etc. TWH are often ridden in a tight rein curb bit with long shank. Ugh.. ;) If yours is trained that way you may have to use a lot more contact than you would when riding a typical western trained QH.. Be light.. :)
     
    08-15-2012, 05:28 PM
  #5
Weanling
" TWH are often ridden in a tight rein curb bit with long shank."

That's because they don't train them. It is completely unnecessary. We ride all of ours with a bit similar to the one shown in my post. And with very, very light contact with the mouth. Just enough to keep the reins from flopping. Any more and you need to go back and do some more training. It is true, that most gaited horses will look for some bit contact, but they don't need nearly as much as all too many folks think.

Most of the time when they think they need tight reins, it is not tight reins they need, but rather, a heavier bit with a lot of tongue relieve. To get some horses started, I've taped some lead wheel weights to the shanks of the bit. Don't usually need them for very long, but can help get them started.

The Mylar you have is much better than the high port, long shanks you see so much. I'd like to see it have a bit more tongue room. But should work just fine with light contact.
     
    08-15-2012, 06:44 PM
  #6
Green Broke
bbsmfg3, how to you feel about the Myler #33 mouthpiece?

Myler Bit- HBT Shank MB 33, Size 5"

I tried one of these before:

Myler Comfort Snaffle w/Copper Roller

And my MFT mare didn't like it. She like the #33 better. So I was just curious what your experience has been with it? A Myler rep. Told me the #33 has the most tongue relief and should be my ultimate goal to ride in anyway. So I was just curious what you think of it?
     
    08-15-2012, 06:51 PM
  #7
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by bbsmfg3    
........And with very, very light contact with the mouth. Just enough to keep the reins from flopping. Any more and you need to go back and do some more training. It is true, that most gaited horses will look for some bit contact, but they don't need nearly as much as all too many folks think.
See, this makes good sense to me. That's what I try to do with my MFT. I let the reins flop at a dog walk and take up light contact at the flat walk and fox trot. Just enough fingertip contact that I can feel her mouth but if she trips I loose the reins. That's what I consider light contact.

I really got the wrong impression in your other post. It sounded pretty harsh.
     
    08-15-2012, 08:45 PM
  #8
Weanling
The 33 mouth piece may or may not work, depending on the width of the horse's tongue . The 33 is almost a high port bit.

I've never tried it, so can not give you first hand experience.
     
    08-15-2012, 10:34 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Borrow one and try it if you can first. Saves you money if you don't like how horse feels with it.

Reinsman Billy Allen Reiner Bit

I have the above bit, and also have one with medium port, and one with snaffle mouthpiece.

And the palate is the roof of the mouth, not the floor of it.

Horses will generally go just fine in many bits, not just those associated with the breed or the way they are shown.
     
    08-16-2012, 11:13 AM
  #10
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Palomine    

And the palate is the roof of the mouth, not the floor of it.

Horses will generally go just fine in many bits, not just those associated with the breed or the way they are shown.

You are right, the palate is the top, I should simply say bottom of the mouth.

Horses in general are very sensitive to bits, more so than most folks think. Especially those that pinch their tongue, or exert a lot of pressure on the bars of the mouth. With some horses the most severe bit you can use is a simple snaffle, why, because their may be no room for their tongue. Many, many behavioral problems are blamed on everything else, when the real problem is the bit, the teeth, the mouth in general.

Breed has nothing to do with how a bit fits. Bit fitting is like saddle fitting, it's the individual horse, not the breed.
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