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post #1 of 11 Old 06-19-2011, 02:15 PM Thread Starter
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We got the old crappy heavy" i wanna sell this walker shoes off of him "and put some better "lets not ruin him shoes"..The more i learn the more i hate some horse dealers.

But here is Mister after a month of natural balance shoes just on his front feet..Im thinking of just going bare foot next time cause if he is just gonna pace i might as well keep him comfy and i just ride in the pasture anyway.But how bad is it?Can he be taught to walk like he should, he is 6.When he had on the shoes i bought him with he looked awesome but the first time i had him shod my farrier laughed and knew exscatly where i got him from because that's how they sell .

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post #2 of 11 Old 06-19-2011, 07:45 PM
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Are you sure he is pacing? I didn't see any, but it was so short. It would be nice to see a longer video, like about 5 minutes of him continually gaiting back and forth. When they pace they move both legs on the one side at the same time and in the same direction? He seems to have his feet moving correctly.

Someone help if you are seeing something else.

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post #3 of 11 Old 06-19-2011, 08:02 PM Thread Starter
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That's great to hear. I didn't have someone that could take the vid so I had it sitting up on a post. He had real heavy shoes on when I got him and was pacy and now we have light shoes on just the fronts and am glad to hear he wasn't pacy. That is his normal slow gait. I have been doi g months of slow flat walk up hill to get rid of his pace and I guess it's working. I'll try to get more footage next time. I really can't see gaits really well but I can feel them
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The main thing I didn't see was a lot of movement from you. Like I said it was real short, but I played it slowly. A pace is not comfortable at all, it is like you are walking as the pace actually swings your body from side to side just like you are walking in the saddle. Does that make sense. I have been told that when they are in a good gait you can hear a rhythm that matches a beat like when you say the words pic-a-pocket.Like 1-2,3,4. I know when my 4 year old goes into gait he tucks his head and smooths out and I hear that.

Either way he looks to be a well mannered walker and you should have tons of fun with him.

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post #5 of 11 Old 06-20-2011, 07:51 PM
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He does a stepping pace, which is comfy. It's not correct, but it's better than a hard pace.
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post #6 of 11 Old 06-21-2011, 10:38 AM
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Yep, stepping pace. I would continue working with him because the stepping pace long term is not great for them physically, but you are definitely on the right track!!
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post #7 of 11 Old 07-12-2011, 03:36 PM
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I see the same thing. I don't see a hard pace, but he is very lateral in his movements. I would agree that he is doing a stepping pace. Not as uncomfortable to ride, but you are on the right track. Just keep doing lots of walk work and you will eventually get there. It's really a shame that some people can't sell their horses unless they put heavy shoes on them to make them look good.
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post #8 of 11 Old 07-13-2011, 09:12 AM
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I see a few moments of the head bobbing up and down, not side-to-side.

Up and down indicates a running walk.

It's hard to tell from such a short blurp, but the horse almost looked like it wasn't sure what to do. OP please don't take offense and I could have been seeing things totally wrong, but it looked like the horse KNEW what to do, just couldn't because it was getting mixed signals.

That might account for folks thinking it was performing the Step Pace; I do have one horse that does the Step Pace and there is no question that his head moves side-to-side. The head in the video appeared to be going up and down - at least from the angle of the camera

Stepping Pace, rack, hard lateral pace, the head always moves side-to-side.

In either case, the degree of head movement varies with the horse.

Did the OP have to set the camera on a stand and take this video herself? That would explain why there was so much "empty space" in the video.

It would be great if someone else could do the video so the horse could be filmed in for a decent period of time

And no, he doesn't need shoes. If you have a good trimmer and he's only going to be ridden on the farm - what's the point

I have one TWH that has only worn shoes once or twice in his life, when I knew he was going to be ridden in extreme rock and shale conditions.

He has that champagne-smooth running walk that people lust after --- and a barely grade one club hoof. He's now 16 and has been with me since he was 2-1/2. He has never come up sore from being ridden barefoot

Can you drag someone in off the street to help you get a longer running video of him?
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For what it's worth I'll give my little experience :)

I have a standardbred. He started out at a quick stepping pace, now he can do the FW, saddle rack, rack, singlefoot, trot and canter - on cue. He can probably be taught to do the flying pace too, has done it a few times, but atm I'm not interested in that ;) He has normal shoes, a normal trim and no weights.

Work on bending and suppling the horse. What happens if you try to do a leg yield in gait? A shoulder in? Make lots of transitions, both between walk and gait (and canter and trot if you're going for that) but also transitions of tempo within the gait. Work on circles and move him to a wider or a smaller circle, etc. All of those things will encourage a supple, well balanced horse and discourage a pace.
Give some attention on how you sit if he doesn't do as you ask, it's common that the rider interferes without realizing it, for example by yielding in the side in turns, which makes it difficult for the horse to turn and instead the horse slips away sideways.

Good luck.


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I see a few moments of the head bobbing up and down, not side-to-side.

Up and down indicates a running walk.

It's hard to tell from such a short blurp, but the horse almost looked like it wasn't sure what to do. OP please don't take offense and I could have been seeing things totally wrong, but it looked like the horse KNEW what to do, just couldn't because it was getting mixed signals.

That might account for folks thinking it was performing the Step Pace; I do have one horse that does the Step Pace and there is no question that his head moves side-to-side. The head in the video appeared to be going up and down - at least from the angle of the camera

Stepping Pace, rack, hard lateral pace, the head always moves side-to-side.

In either case, the degree of head movement varies with the horse.

Did the OP have to set the camera on a stand and take this video herself? That would explain why there was so much "empty space" in the video.

It would be great if someone else could do the video so the horse could be filmed in for a decent period of time

And no, he doesn't need shoes. If you have a good trimmer and he's only going to be ridden on the farm - what's the point

I have one TWH that has only worn shoes once or twice in his life, when I knew he was going to be ridden in extreme rock and shale conditions.

He has that champagne-smooth running walk that people lust after --- and a barely grade one club hoof. He's now 16 and has been with me since he was 2-1/2. He has never come up sore from being ridden barefoot

Can you drag someone in off the street to help you get a longer running video of him?
He totally knows more about what he is doing more then i do.Ill try to get a longer video.
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