TWH and QH cross.. Advice plz.

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    04-06-2009, 05:20 PM
Red face TWH and QH cross.. Advice plz.

Hi everyone.. Im fairly new to this forum and brand spanking new to any gaited horse.. lol!

I just purchased a Tennessee Walker/QH mix. The owner said that it can do the Walker gait but I honestly am clueless when it comes to riding a walker.. I was reading some of the threads here and saw people mention not to trot them? Please enlighten me! He isnt going to be in any shows or anything, mainly something to ride around at the farm..

Is there anything special I need for him as far as a bit? Is there a riding style that they just generally prefer over another? I've always owned QHs.. lol!

I havent even got on this guy to ride yet, but Im hoping for some advice to try when he does get here and I can get on him. Will I hurt him trotting him? Do they not canter or gallop? How is his QH blood going to affect him if at all? I was laughing with my mom saying how perfect it would be to have a comfy trot and a gallop that can last.. haha.

So anyway, please dumb it down for me any tips.. It's been over 10 years since I've actually owned a horse..
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    04-07-2009, 12:18 AM
Did you purchase 2 horses?
    04-07-2009, 11:28 AM
One of the best things you can do is purchase East Gaited Horses by Lee Ziegler. You can also just google her and get tons of articles.
    04-07-2009, 07:48 PM
Welcome to the gaited world.. :P
I can't say I'm an expert, I've ridden icelandic horses some, only. Then I bought a standie and then he was gaited.. which I had no idea of when I bought him, unbroke.. :P
So we're figuring things out together.. at the moment my horse won't trot with a rider, a while ago he would trot, but then he easily switched from the gait to the trot. So I need to learn how to let him know when to trot and when to gait... I've tried different speed, the problem is that he can gait in walk-speed as well as easily run past other galloping horses in rack (or ''flying'' two beat pace, but he usually racks and I don't encourage the pace at the moment... we have enough issues as it is :P ) so getting him to trot by slowing down or speed up is difficult, to say the least. I want him to both be able to trot and gait, because both his trot and gait are nice and the trot will help keeping his gait from being too lateral and so on. But how to teach him to only gait when I sit back in that weird gait-seat I've used and learnt..? x)

Anyway, back to your horse.. as far as I know, the reason not to trot a horse is because it can confuse them on if they should gait or trot. TWH are able to trot (all horses are) and I personally believe it's good training for them to trot once in a while too. But as you can see, I havn't figured how to get the right gait at the right time yet :P
You shouldn't need any special tack or bit, if he's gaited he'll be able to gait no matter what, and with training he'll be good at it. Some horses need a little help ''finding'' their gait, but don't ask me how to do that.
You probably need to know how to put your weight in the saddle to encourage a gait, it's not difficult but I find it hard to explain here.
I have no idea how the QH part will affect.. I'm not sure that's something you can calculate anyway. :)
Good luck and try to find a trainer or someone with gaited horses that can help you.
    04-07-2009, 08:04 PM
Joshie~ Yes, the reg (or maybe not so) QH and this painted TW/QH. This one was bought off a friend of a friend for next to nothing. :o) Both horses are pictured in my barn thingy on here.

Zab~ Thanks! So basically just get out there and ride him and try different things till he does it? If he doesnt then maybe he isnt "gaited"? Im really really green on this stuff! I have been on horses since I was 5 and have done alittle bit of everything (western, barrels, English, jumping, carriage driving..) but never learned a WHOLE lot about any of it! I've been all ove the net reading about different things to try on these horses to see what they know... Which Im sure is far more than I know.. lol.
    04-07-2009, 08:11 PM
The best thing is of course if you can get help from someone who knows anything about gaited horses :P

But why not try? Just be nice to him and don't experiment with severe bits or weights or anything. I'd try to urge him forward but at the same time gently try to keep him from starting to trot, and sit back on your butt (try to push your lower back out some), gently squeesing his sides. Once/if you get a gait, then you can try to get a better seat and so on. He might not be gaited.

But the best thing is as I said if yu can find anyone who can help you. :)
    04-07-2009, 08:29 PM
Ohhh I know what you're talking about now! I rode someone's horse once and they had me to that.. It makes the horse sorta prance right? Is that a "gait"? Remember.. Im pretty clueless about this gaited stuff! I don't think I even own a severe bit. I generally use hackamores (sp??) if I get a horse who is okay with it. I don't show or anything, mainly just play around at home...
    04-08-2009, 11:24 AM
Prance? Noo. That shouldn't be a gait if my english isn't messed up. But I can seehow someone would use a similiar seat to get a horse to prance..

When I say ''gaiting'' I mean tölt, rack, running walk, stepping pace, paso trot (or what it's called), foxwalk/foxtrot, etc, the gaits gaited horses has except walk, trot and canter :P I suppose your horses gait is ''running walk'' (or flat walk maybe? I dunno..)

Btw, can't the owner show you how to gait him?

Mechanical hackamores or just bitless? :) I'd be careful with mechanical hackamores or bosals, they're pretty severe actually. Rather a sidepull or riding cavesson. Tho someone told me that gaited horses shouldn't use bitlesssince it ''blocks'' them.. I dunno, Crow is broken with bitless, I use a straight bar snaffle now, but there's no differense :P
    04-09-2009, 12:39 PM
The man I got the horse from (friend of a friend) bought the horse for his wife to just ride around at their place.. so basically what Ill be doing. I havent even been on the horse yet, honestly am too nervous too. The wife wasnt there the day I went out there to look at him.

The main reason we bought him was because the man breeds qh's but had this one for his wife to ride. They had him out with the studs who beat on him.. moved him to the mares who beat up on him.. so he ended up all alone in a pen. The guy figured the horse can't live in a little pen and would get hurt out there with the other horses. I think we paid $200 for him. Worst case is he stays a pasture mate to the qh.. but I would love to get more comfortable around him to be able to get on him.

I grew up using hackamores on horses. Not all but the ones who would. The qh I bought is using a sidepull but I havent found anywhere here who sells them so Im thinking Ill have to order it online.. :o( I have a box of bits, leverage and snaffle bits of various sizes(I don't know the correct terms for most of them..) that I inheritated. I guess I need to get someone from out here to give me a refresher on what all this stuff is and what it is used for.

Thanks for the knowledge though! I love picking brains! I still don't get what a "gait" is though.. lol. Thankfully there is you tube.. lol!
    04-09-2009, 04:55 PM
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From what I have read of other folks who have purchased TWH/trotting horse crosses, the horse generally will not pick up any sort of gait from it's gaited parent.

My neighbor's Arab/TWH cross was that way. He flat-out refused to gait and he had a couple of very experienced gaited horse folks try to teach him.

The exception to that might be a TWH/Appaloosa cross because Appys were gaited before people started breeding it out of them. They do carry the gaited gene.

You aren't out anything to buy Lee Ziegler's book, that's for sure. This may be the one gaited/trotting cross that will gait

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