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post #21 of 32 Old 04-27-2013, 03:58 PM Thread Starter
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Yea....my wife does too.....glad my mare doesn't need them.
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post #22 of 32 Old 04-27-2013, 11:55 PM
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I used to shoe my horses but now I do barefoot. It may not work for everyone but it works for me and my guys.

I boot when needed. It's a lot like our own feet. Put the boots on when you need them, take them off when you don't. Makes a lot of sense. I can see why some owners don't want to fool with boots. They are a little bit of work to take on and off. But for my horse's best interest it is worth it to me.

I think a natural moving gaited horse is a thing of beauty.
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post #23 of 32 Old 04-28-2013, 07:03 AM
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There was a judge in Houston who was really clever at making the punishment fit the crime. Too bad he's not in TN!! Larry Wheelon should wear bolts in his shoes.

It always seemed to me that horse show judges must get kick-backs, or these things would change. It does NOT start at the breed association level with a rule, because the winners are always mimiced. So, if the judges in QH WP don't place peanut-roller, 4-beat ridiculousness, then it would go away so fast it would make your head spin. If there was a naturally moving horse or two in a TWH class, and the judge placed it, it would all go away. The crowd would boo for a bit, the trainers would be indignant, but animals would not be harmed, and people would not go to jail. Or at least, they would find OTHER reasons to put them in jail, lol.

Off soap box now. Back to my version of the real world.....

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post #24 of 32 Old 04-28-2013, 08:15 AM
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It always seemed to me that horse show judges must get kick-backs, or these things would change.
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And then there's the true story of the judge who left his truck window cracked open a little bit, while judging a high level show.

Wow! What a birthday surprise he found laying on the truck seat when he was done "judging" for the evening-----------------------------

I have always said, this garbage will stop when the judges stop allowing it and not until.

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post #25 of 32 Old 04-28-2013, 08:51 AM
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the breed associations make the rules, and apoint/ certify the judges. TWHBEA will never hand out the life time bans, If they did, ummlets see no preisdent, no vice president, no board of directors, pretty much the entire top layer of the organization would be gone.
People simply need to stop giving these people money. I actually got a letter asking me why I wasnt a member, to which I replied exactly why, got a reply from Tracy Boyd with his lip service , "no tolerance" So I asked him when he was going to resign ?
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post #26 of 32 Old 05-02-2013, 01:26 PM
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I'm glad to see they're still going after the people who do these things to those show horses. I just hope the charges stick. I hope it makes those oblivious owners begin to question the trainers they send their own horses to.

The idea of an organization that oversees "performance/padded/big lick" divisions even having an "ethics" committee is like a cruel joke. Making a horse so uncomfortable that it moves in a "flashy" way to avoid pain is not ethical no matter what terms are used to justify it.

And yes - the TWH is an extremely stoic breed. That's what makes it even more heartbreaking (to me), because they'll just stand there and let these things be done to them, and they'll still try their hearts out for their rider. . .many other breeds would have kicked the person's head off and become impossible to get near.
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post #27 of 32 Old 05-02-2013, 11:23 PM
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Jolly Badger, I agree with you. My TWH mare is a phenom. When I first got her, I used a new fly spray which had something in it to which she was allergic. She got a nasty chemical burn from it but I wasn't aware of it. Couldn't figure out why she didn't stand quietly while I mounted; eventually figured out from the changes in her skin that her entire back was blistered under the saddle. She must have been in agony but didn't let on except that she was fidgety. Made me realize that I always need to watch for her 'unusual' behavior because she just won't show pain. I can't imagine what agony those poor show horses must go through. Fortunately, my mare was humanely raised and well treated.
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post #28 of 32 Old 05-04-2013, 12:03 AM
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I know someone who had numerous dealings with Larry Wheelon. He picked up some of his practices too. What a shame and disgrace to such a wonderful breed. I wish they would just do away with all devices too. The walk has transformed into a freak show anyways, it's so far beyond the natural capabilities it's ridiculous.

TWH are the most tolerant and forgiving creatures. For example, today we discovered my gelding was lame on his right leg. He had the classic signs for being quicked (he had been shod 2 weeks ago) and sure enough he was. Even though he was in immense pain while we were getting the shoe off, he still acted like a gentleman and even reached his foot up to be worked on. I should mention that we got this horse from a man who rescued him from the show world. He was still up on pads when we got him. He has a scar on his back leg which forever dq'd him from the arena, so he was just discarded like trash. I can only imagine what sort of things have been done to him to get him to perform, yet he still tries his best to be good!
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post #29 of 32 Old 05-06-2013, 10:19 PM
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So now I've been invited to a TWH show this weekend! Tempted to go carrying a sign.... BUt the last show I went to, the trainer's show, I saw less stress in the horses than I see at dressage shows, and certainly less than Arab shows.

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post #30 of 32 Old 05-10-2013, 08:53 AM
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Does the TWHBEA sanction the judges or do the horse owning judges belong to the TWHBEA? Is the registry politically involved or is their mandate to keep records and breeding records of the TWH? If they aren't politically involved why try to pull them in to the foray? If all who oppose soring wrote to the state representative and stated "if you want my vote you will stop the soring of TWH" If his office were to receive 10 thousand within a few days, he'd be sitting up and taking notice. We did this over a different issue only we used paper mail. A mass mailing on one day. The politician's office receive bags and bags of mail opposing what had been proposed and it worked.
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