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        11-21-2013, 07:07 AM
      #1
    Green Broke
    What do you think about this girl...

    Hi everyone,

    What are your thoughts on this girl? A friend of mine (who is leasing a horse I trained for another friend) is looking into getting her own horse. She contacted the barn this horse is at inquiring about a different horse and they recommended this one to her. Right now I told her to "shop around" for barns and then we'll get to worrying about the horse. Without further adue..

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        11-21-2013, 08:26 AM
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    Couple of things come to mind (I only watched part of the video)
    She's beautiful and I'm not sure where your friend is located, but I would say the price is too high. If your friend is willing to travel a little bit she could save herself thousands of dollars.

    I shopped around for a while and figured out what the going price was for similar horses within a day's drive. Because I was willing to drive a little, my options opened up greatly and I found some really nice ones at half her cost.
    My buckskin RMH was every bit as experienced in the things she is and then some, but his price was much much better.

    Anyway, this girl seems like a more forward mover yet the rider was able to hold her in at a slower pace which would suit riding with non gaited horses. Her hooves seemed a little too long for my tastes, but perhaps it was time for a trim.
    Maybe the friend could try and negotiate a better price, but from personal experience she just seems too high.
         
        11-21-2013, 09:09 AM
      #3
    Yearling
    Nice enough. Decent training (and that is worth some $$$). Can't really tell much about conformation but it seems OK. Hefty premium for color, though. If someobody is buying for riding only I'd recommend they keep shopping. If this is an addition to a brood mare band then I'd want to see a bit more about her conformation; if that pans out then maybe the price is not so far out of line.

    G.
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        11-21-2013, 10:20 AM
      #4
    Green Broke
    I rarely get involved in these "what do you think" threads because generally, if the person has to ask the question, they shouldn't be buying the horse.

    This thread is an exception to that

    They do want a tremendous amount of money for her - way more than I would pay but to play Devil's Advocate:

    1. I REALLY appreciate they were smart enough to show Gypsy being tacked up. Her body language and ear position were great during the entire process.

    2. She is a willing mover and appears to be a somewhat forward mover (big motored horse) which is straight down my alley but might not be to others. To a somewhat timid/fearful rider she may give the sense she's trying to run away when she isn't.

    3. She doesn't like the mailboxes - I caught a couple side steps at two o them and I'm sure she's passed them many times.

    4. BUT #3 got completely cancelled out with all the traffic. Especially she gets many cudos for not even flicking an ear when that a** in the small pickup almost ran them over. The moron had to put the binders on to the point of his tires smoking.

    All of that could put the calmest of horses in a tailspin but Gypsy never waivered. THAT alone added a whole big bunch of money to her value.

    Negatives:

    1. She is a gorgeous Palomino and while I once owned a Palomino I know part of Gypsy's price point is her color. She is "Lit Up" to coin a phrase where I live and Lit Up always equals more money than if the same horse were bay, sorrel or chestnut red.

    2. When Gypsy first came out of the barn, I thought I could see a little hitch in her left hind. I didn't notice anything through out the video, so it could be just the way she was hesitating, not sure what quite what the rider was going to ask of her, since a camera person was there.

    3. In her case, I'm not saying she isn't worth $7,200 and I'm not saying she is. But Gyspy, IMHO falls into the slim category of whatever the market will bear and if the right Owner comes along they might think they stole this horse at $7,200.

    Taking the money out of the picture would I buy her if I were in the market? Yes if she were a gelding because that business with the smoking tires pick up really impressed me.

    Plus she's a racker so there's some nice speed there (or should be) as long as nobody abuses that speed and she ends up road foundered or with leg/ankle arthritis over the long term.

    But she's a mare, I don't "do" mares, so I would never have inquired in the first place

    Hope this helps
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        11-21-2013, 10:44 AM
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    Weanling
    I am not a fan of a Palomino, first off, but I will tell you that if you could find that horse in IN, KY, or TN it would be about 1/3 of the money.

    Folks in the NE area are willing to spend quite a bit of money for a decent horse. I have found in my travels that Rockys tend to bring alot of money the further from the heart of RMH country you get.

    Nice little mare but WAY over priced in my opinion. I could buy that mare all day within a few hours drive for MUCH less than that.

    Jim
         
        11-21-2013, 11:17 AM
      #6
    Trained
    Agreed. 14'3hh just isn't tall enough for me and I'm 5'4", so I'd negotiate, too on the price. Still, TOO MANY new owners don't get a horse as well trained as this one. I'm not that impressed with the picture of this rider, so the horse impresses me MORE bc of the picture. Funny, spellcheck doesn't catch "tale", when you mean "tail." Caution for horse sellers. EDIT.
         
        11-21-2013, 02:37 PM
      #7
    Weanling
    Pretty horse, BUT. IMO, way, way over priced.

    Didn't see alot of training. Probably a natural gait, so that wasn't a lot. Yes, she is not real spooky, but that's pretty common.
    Didn't see any real training, no neck rein, no backing, no extended speeds, no side pass, no half pass, none of what you'd call a well trained horse.

    A horse at this price needs something very exceptional, besides color.
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        11-21-2013, 03:10 PM
      #8
    Trained
    I beg to differ. I've been trail riding with spooky RMH's, and KMH's. (mine aren't) The breed spooks, just like other breeds. AND, there are some vicious and stubborn bloodlines out there, just like their are some vicious and stubborn gaited TRAINERS out there, too.
         
        11-21-2013, 03:44 PM
      #9
    Foal
    I don't know the farm personally, but know of the farm.

    These horses are not bred and born there. The owners travel to Kentucky, Tennesse, and other state to ge the them. They are priced high in my opinion as in New England the gaited breeds are not as popular. I personally would look elsewhere.
    Is your friend set on getting a gaited horse?
         
        11-21-2013, 03:59 PM
      #10
    Green Broke
    The buyer would be about 5'4, probably 150ish.

    She is within a 2 hour drive, and I like that they have other horses we can look at also. The distance isn't really to far for a looksie and I can have dinner with my grandma!

    As for the price tag... I'm 200% in agreement! She is a pretty penny, with no indication why, besides being a safe trail horse. I notice that a lot of these places just show a horse riding a line and walking through the woods. I totally agree, not a lot of training shown. Then again, how do you put a price on true safety, if she is really that safe. I'm going to absolutely tell her to make an offer and if not look else where. But hey, if she has the budget and this horse is safe, sound and well trained AND she really like her its not my money. And like I said, how do you put a price on true safety.

    And that car thing was out of control!! Major kudos for that! I told her to email them and ask what her spook looks like. They says she hasnt, but I don't think she would be the eruptive type. More of the spook in place-rr.

    Conformation shots are on the way! The other thing I was think was the size of that bit and the fact that I really didnt notice any slack in the reins.

    Yes, she is set on gaited. She currently leases the gaited horse I trained for a friend. She doesnt want to go back to a trotting horse.

    Ps... Sorry for the delayed post, I swear I didn't abandon the thread. I just helped deliver 3 babies at clinical! :)
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