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        11-21-2013, 04:23 PM
      #11
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    Originally Posted by SlideStop    
    ....The other thing I was think was the size of that bit and the fact that I really didnt notice any slack in the reins.

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    I noticed the same thing. Many gaited horses have big motors and like to go, go, go...but not all. Mine will go slow on a loose rein with a mild bit. So if that is important to your friend tell her to keep that in mind.

    When I was delving into the breed and looking at many different RMH and KMHs, one thing I saw a lot of is what a good mind they generally have. Yes, every breed is prone to animals that don't read the "How to be a Good Horse" book, but RMH and KHM are known for being mellow tempered and taking things in stride.
    My horse will tolerate things that make other horses completely jump out of their skins at. And it isn't because of any extra training by me or the previous owners...they are just usually good minded horses.

    ETA: Forgot to mention...they are usually air ferns too. Easy easy keepers. Makes for a happy wallet. :)
         
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        11-21-2013, 04:59 PM
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    The buyer would be about 5'4, probably 150ish. Until my discs started deteriorating I used to be 5'5". The TWH in my avatar is 14.3H and has been my trail riding BFF for 23 years. I have always ridden him bareback and believe me, he is NOT too short - lol I've had my 16.1H TWH nearly 18 years and he still has the "new car warranty" on his tall self

    She is within a 2 hour drive, and I like that they have other horses we can look at also. The distance isn't really to far for a looksie and I can have dinner with my grandma! Sounds like a win-win if you don't take the horse trailer. Can't beat lunch with your grandma

    As for the price tag... I'm 200% in agreement! She is a pretty penny, with no indication why, besides being a safe trail horse. I notice that a lot of these places just show a horse riding a line and walking through the woods. I totally agree, not a lot of training shown. the mare is only seven? And who knows how long they've owned her to fine tune her neck reining, etc. She should know how to back; at any rate, you would have to take her on the trails yourself to see and hope that fool in the smoking tires pickup stays at the bar while you're trial-riding her.

    Then again, how do you put a price on true safety, if she is really that safe. I'm going to absolutely tell her to make an offer and if not look else where. But hey, if she has the budget and this horse is safe, sound and well trained AND she really like her its not my money. And like I said, how do you put a price on true safety. Much truth to that. I have an Arab that is the best toddlers and infant horse I have ever had the privilege to have in my pasture. He was a rescue 20+ years ago and has cost me a fair amount of $$$$ to keep him healthy and sound. He is now 27-1/2 and worth every penny I've put into him and then some. He's the one horse I have that I never have to worry about little children being in the stall with him. You cannot put a price tag on stuff like that.

    And that car thing was out of control!! Major kudos for that! I told her to email them and ask what her spook looks like. They says she hasnt, but I don't think she would be the eruptive type. More of the spook in place-rr.

    Conformation shots are on the way! The other thing I was think was the size of that bit and the fact that I really didnt notice any slack in the reins. If this horse isn't going into the show ring, I would not pick her apart too severely for conformation. Long as her front legs are straight (she can be splay footed without having crooked leg bones), and she's not sickle hocked or terribly cow hocked, and passed a PPE, I would over look minor flaws.

    I know there are gaited folks on this forum that will minutely pick her apart but again, unless the show ring will enter the picture at some point, there are minor things that can be over looked.

    She needs to demonstrate she can travel comfortably in her intermediate gait. I agree with gaiting her on somewhat of a loose rein but, if she wasn't broke when they got her, lack of experience may be part of the problem.

    The TWH in my avatar is a Step Pacer. He's now 26 and how glad I was that he was my first gaited horse and I was gait stupid, elst somebody "knowledgeable" on gaits may have convinced me to pass on him. Had I done that, I would have missed out on the horse of a lifetime. In the 23 years we've been buds, I can count on one hand the mistakes this big motored horse has made.

    He was born with "horse sense", probably much like Gypsy demonstrated with the smoking truck tires since she is only 7. We once had a semi pass us, who let off his jake brake right in my lap. About scared me right off Duke but all he did was flip the guy off with the flick of an ear and never missed a lick hot footin' it down the side of the state highway. I know you get my point

    The horse is over priced in today's market, if they haven't done any fine tuning on her. However, it's coming winter and I would approach negotiations from that angle if she decides she wants the horse.

    My friend up in western PA paid $5,500 for an 8 yr old KMSHA four or five years ago that was well broke but had never left its breeding farm. She almost got rid of him because he was homesick for a long time and they just didn't hit it off. She's a life long rider and a cancer survivor so stuck it out and has one of the best sloggin' thru the deep mud, go anywhere, around anything horses you could ask for. Her KMSHA is a drop dead gorgeous Buckskin so part of his price back then was his color --- for which I could have killed her because she knew better - lol lol

    Yes, she is set on gaited. She currently leases the gaited horse I trained for a friend. She doesnt want to go back to a trotting horse. "Ride One Today, Own One Tomorrow" as we Walking Horse folks say

    Ps... Sorry for the delayed post, I swear I didn't abandon the thread. I just helped deliver 3 babies at clinical! :)
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    THREE!! Wowzer you have been busy. Congrats to their moms, I hope all of them are healthy
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        11-21-2013, 07:39 PM
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    Foal
    I take it then she is in or around CT. If she looks there are other gaited horses for a lot less money. Just a few months ago there were several TWH for sale due to their owner passing away for a fraction of the cost.
    Here is a nice looking guy. great rocky mountain gaited horse for sale or trade
         
        11-21-2013, 08:52 PM
      #14
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    Thanks for your reply Walkinthewalk! Yeah, as a trail horse I'm no to concerned about stellar conformation. I'm more concerned about long term soundness, although she (or it) won't have a very physically stressful life! As for your say, I'd say it remains pretty true. If I was a trail rider only I would absolutely get one! I love that they cover ground so quickly, even at the walk.

    Ladygodiva, I'm absolutely going to encourage her to look at other horses even if she thinks this one is "the one". I know there are other horses out there without the hefty price tag, but it's not my money. Also, we are on Long Island. I guarentee we will have to look in the surounding states like NJ, CT, and upstate. PA is a possibility too.
         
        11-22-2013, 08:28 AM
      #15
    Foal
    Just had a thought. Beech Brook Farm in CT is a rescue that specializes in gaited horses. They get in some very nice horses. www.beechbrookfarm.webs.com

    Registered Palomino Tennessee Walker Gelding For Sale/Lease
    Flashy black and white Tennessee walker gelding

    I love horse hunting.
         
        11-22-2013, 08:29 AM
      #16
    Foal
    Ok one more. palomino and white spotted saddle horse gelding
         
        11-22-2013, 09:00 AM
      #17
    Foal
    I'm just curious, what do you guys think the horse is worth? $7500 is still normal out here in So. California for a horse that could gait and not pace.
         
        11-22-2013, 09:10 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    Whoa
    "as a trail horse I'm no to concerned about stellar conformation. I'm more concerned about long term soundness"

    Soundness relates directly to conformation. I want a better conformed horse for trail than for show. Trail will test a horse's soundness as it relates to conformation many, many, many times more than show.
         
        11-22-2013, 10:07 AM
      #19
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Malda    
    I'm just curious, what do you guys think the horse is worth? $7500 is still normal out here in So. California for a horse that could gait and not pace.
    Like all horses it's worth what a willing buyer will pay to a willing seller!

    As to a dollar value, that's highly dependant upon geography. In CA this horse would sell at the high end of any value range because (1) it CA and (2) it palomino (which is particularly popular out there).

    In the Southeast, which is awash with gaited horses of all types, the value would be significatnly less because horse prices are generally less here and palomino is not so desirable.

    In the NE, you're probably looking more at a CA value range than a SE value range if only because lots of stuff is more expensive up there.

    Even in CA or NE I think the asking price here is high.

    G.
         
        11-22-2013, 10:22 AM
      #20
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Guilherme    
    Like all horses it's worth what a willing buyer will pay to a willing seller!

    As to a dollar value, that's highly dependant upon geography. In CA this horse would sell at the high end of any value range because (1) it CA and (2) it palomino (which is particularly popular out there).

    In the Southeast, which is awash with gaited horses of all types, the value would be significatnly less because horse prices are generally less here and palomino is not so desirable.

    In the NE, you're probably looking more at a CA value range than a SE value range if only because lots of stuff is more expensive up there.

    Even in CA or NE I think the asking price here is high.

    G.
    ^^^yup^^^

    I have several FT friends in MA, RI, and CT. Last spring I was at a FT in CT riding my RMH gelding at the time about 30mo and some guy offered my a rediculous amount of money for my boy, and I have heard of people up that way offering as much as $10k for sound, cleanly gaited, trail/FT mounts.

    All of my friends on the East coast have me looking for horses here in the IN/KY area because they can buy them for half or less.

    I would say that market on that mare here as is would be in the $2500-3500 price range. Mostly based on color.

    Jim
         

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