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        11-22-2013, 11:04 AM
      #21
    Green Broke
    I agree with her being over priced, and I've brought it up to her. But like I said, 1. If she is really that safe, how do you put a price on true safety? 2. It's not my money. If she really has a connection with her and she has the money its her business.

    I'll suggest the rescue also, but I don't really like the thought of owning a horse someone else technically owns. I'll have to read the contract.
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        11-22-2013, 11:16 AM
      #22
    Yearling
    Everything is so much more expensive on LI. One of the reasons I left so long ago. I just did a quick search on your craigslist. I'm kind of amazed, very few horses listed at all. Ours is loaded.

    Not many gaited ones. Kinda rare here but there are a few.

    great rocky mountain gaited horse for sale or trade
         
        11-22-2013, 11:24 AM
      #23
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Malda    
    I'm just curious, what do you guys think the horse is worth? $7500 is still normal out here in So. California for a horse that could gait and not pace.
    IMO, $3,000ish... If she is really all they say she is.

    Gaited horses are few and far between around me (on Long Island) and they aren't super popular in the Northeast as a whole. At least not like the south!
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        11-22-2013, 11:28 AM
      #24
    Green Broke
    SueNH, tell me about it. I cannot wait to get the heck outta here. Ideally I'd like to stay within a 1-2 hour drive of Long Island/NYC.
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        11-22-2013, 11:30 AM
      #25
    Yearling
    Might be worth the day trip. Easy shot up rte 91. Will take you about 5 hours.


    There are a lot of horses for sale or free up here in NH and VT both. The economy is still shot up here and getting worse. Lot of bargains to be had.
         
        11-22-2013, 11:52 AM
      #26
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by SlideStop    
    I agree with her being over priced, and I've brought it up to her. But like I said, 1. If she is really that safe, how do you put a price on true safety? 2. It's not my money. If she really has a connection with her and she has the money its her business.

    I'll suggest the rescue also, but I don't really like the thought of owning a horse someone else technically owns. I'll have to read the contract.
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    If you're concerned about safety then "rescue" must be a very careful choice.

    Depending on how you count, we've "rescued" somewhere between 4 and 20 (or so) over the years. The "for sure rescues" were four half starved Arabians bought sight unseen for $400/ea. During a raging blizzrard (at the behest of the county Animal Control officer). It was almost a week before we could get to the pasture to pick them up. Eventually sold all of them for a modest profit.

    The others were bought from a variety of circumstances.

    The common thread was serious neglect of husbandry and training by the owners. We found out (the hard way, early on) that a starved horse can have a gross change in temperment as the get fed up. In multiple instances the reason the horse was starved was it had serious temperment issues (sometimes dangerous tendencies) when it felt good. Based upon these experiences I do NOT recommend "rescue" as a source of horses for inexperienced riders.

    I'm personally aware of two dealers from CA and one from MD who make regular trips to TN and pick up wholesale lots of gaited horses which they take back and sell. The polish the horse and mark it up significantly. I've got no "heartburn" with this; it's just capitalism at work.

    Like I say, geography is a major factor in equine value.

    G.
         
        11-22-2013, 12:01 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
    The positives of a Rescue are that the Rescue owns the horse, so don't worry about it. Horse Rescues are NOT horse pawn shops. The owners give up their rights of ownership.
    The negatives are that you sign a contract to not rehome the horse or sell it. SO, if you find that this horse is NOT a good fit, the Rescue expects you to return the horse to THEM. I knew this when I "adopted" Buster Brown, but I liked and still like him, and I keep the horses I like, for life.
    (This is different than the current phrase, "Forever Home.")
         
        11-22-2013, 12:42 PM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Guilherme    
    If you're concerned about safety then "rescue" must be a very careful choice.

    Depending on how you count, we've "rescued" somewhere between 4 and 20 (or so) over the years. The "for sure rescues" were four half starved Arabians bought sight unseen for $400/ea. During a raging blizzrard (at the behest of the county Animal Control officer). It was almost a week before we could get to the pasture to pick them up. Eventually sold all of them for a modest profit.

    The others were bought from a variety of circumstances.

    The common thread was serious neglect of husbandry and training by the owners. We found out (the hard way, early on) that a starved horse can have a gross change in temperment as the get fed up. In multiple instances the reason the horse was starved was it had serious temperment issues (sometimes dangerous tendencies) when it felt good. Based upon these experiences I do NOT recommend "rescue" as a source of horses for inexperienced riders.

    I'm personally aware of two dealers from CA and one from MD who make regular trips to TN and pick up wholesale lots of gaited horses which they take back and sell. The polish the horse and mark it up significantly. I've got no "heartburn" with this; it's just capitalism at work.

    Like I say, geography is a major factor in equine value.

    G.
    Oh yes. I'm all to familiar with "rescues". The horse she is leasing now (the one I trained for my other friend) has been a "problem child" for the past 2 years. This is her third summer and she is finally "safe", as in my friend can handle her as an advanced beginner/intermediate rider.

    I'd MUCH rather her spend $$$ on something that is save and reliable then roll the dice on a rescue. She is middle aged (almost 50) and not equipped to handle major issues. I'm also in no position to dedicate time to a second problem child. I'd rather see her pay $10000 for a horse then pick up a free one with issues.
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        11-22-2013, 04:35 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    " I'm also in no position to dedicate time to a second problem child."

    You DO NOT KNOW this is not a problem horse.
    1. The horse is only a 6 yr old and shows no signs of extended trail experience.
    2. The horse shows no signs of complete training. It gaits(probably natural) it is just a little spooky at some things. Notice how she shies away from some of the road side items. Yes, she did well with the car sliding, but then spooked at a sign. No neck reining, backing, side pass, etc(the things a well trained horse would have)
    3. You don't know how long it has been between being idle and being ridden. Very possible they have put several weeks continuously on her. Has she had several months off between rides. Some of these horses retain what they have been taught, and others loose it all.

    IMHO, her color is nice, but will not help the new lady rider. NO way would I consider this horse for my wife(who is an excellent rider) without some very extensive test rides and know that the horse has had extended layoffs between rides. If I were to make an offer on her, from what we've seen, it would be in the $1000.00 to $1500.00 range. AND she could be a diamond in the rough, in which case she just might make a $2000.00 horse. But in today's horse world, with as many nice ones as there are, a horse, needs something very special, to bring over $2K. Her current training is a long, long way from making her a show horse, she shows no signs of being extremely fast(25+mph) in a true rack. Nothing really special, other than color, and MAYBE, not real spooky. I am not impressed with the sliding car, I'd be more impressed with a, no spook, when a turkey, deer, or quail, jumps up in front of her.
         
        11-22-2013, 06:03 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    I agree, she is pretty young. I'm not talking about taking cash and a trailer. Ideally I'd like her to be taken on a trail basis. If not I'd like her to ride her at least 3 times before she came to a decision to buy.

    I'll be honest, I think many of our therapy horses would have jumped at the sound of that car. Hell, it would have scared the pants off me. We really need to evaluate her for ourselves, either way a 3 min video isn't going to do it.

    What I do like about her is that she did just cock her head and did a small side step. She didn't hesitate past it, go totally side was, spin, stop, etc. All horses spook. The horse she is leasing from my friend "used to" be a spook and spinner. That behavior is totally unacceptable! Now my friend other person TWH will either freeze or do a little hop sideways. If a horse is going to spook I'd MUCH rather see a freezer or a side stepper then a spook and spinner, a horse who take off, bucks, etc. The said she has been exposed to wildlife, but without hooking the seller up to a lie detector who knows if ANY of this is true.

    We don't want a show horse, and I'd prefer her to be slow so that's cool with me.

    I've also told her once and I'll say it again to her "would you like this horse the same if she was plain old Brown?"

    As for price I'm not arguing. She IS WAY OVER PRICED. I'm absolutely going to tell her to make an offer. If she is everything they say she is, my friend clicks with her, and they won't budge on the price, well, its not my money or yours. She is a middle age women whos kids have flown the nest. No husband. A breast cancer survivor. She deserves to have whatever she wants, if she can afford it!
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