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post #1 of 23 Old 01-06-2011, 11:03 PM Thread Starter
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What does this mean?

I am looking at a spotted saddle horse for sale. I asked the owner what the worst thing about the horse was, this is what he said:

"She will pace on you if you let her go too fast is the only thing wrong with her."

I have no idea what that means.
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post #2 of 23 Old 01-06-2011, 11:06 PM
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I think it means she will pace instead of whatever gait it is that you want them to do (rack isn't it?) I'm not experienced in gaited horses, but that's how I interpreted it.
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post #3 of 23 Old 01-06-2011, 11:08 PM
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I think she means like the Standarbreds. They 'pace'.
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post #4 of 23 Old 01-06-2011, 11:19 PM
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I also agree with what HorseofCourse said.

From what I have read, a pace isn't exactly desireable for most gaited horses (unless its a Standardbred).

Taken from Wikipedia under Spotted Saddle horse (Spotted Saddle horse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) :

Gaits
The Spotted Saddle Horse performs the flat walk, running walk, and canter. These are the three gaits for which this breed is famous, with the intermediate speed gait being a naturally inherited smooth four-beat, lateral ambling gait unique to this breed.
The flat walk, called a show walk by the National Spotted Saddle Horse Association (NSSHA) is a brisk, long-reaching walk that can cover 4 to 8 miles an hour. This is a four-beat gait with each of the horse's feet hitting the ground individually at regular intervals.
The running walk, called "show pleasure" by the NSSHA and "show gait" by the Spotted Saddle Horse Breeders and Exhibitor's Association (SSHBEA), is the intermediate gait of the Spotted Saddle Horse. This extra-smooth ambling gait has the same footfall sequence as the flat walk with a marked increase in speed. This breed can travel at 10 to 20 miles per hour at this gait, which is very smooth.
The canter is a three-beat gait. One nickname for it within the Spotted Saddle Horse community is the "rocking-chair-gait."
In addition, the horse must perform a faster four beat "saddle gait", such as the fox trot, rack, stepping pace, or one of the Paso gaits.

The pace is not listed as a gait performed by this breed of horse, so in all likelihood (but I am by no means an expert on gaited horses) that this is considered the "worst" thing she can do, as it is not really wanted.

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post #5 of 23 Old 01-07-2011, 02:54 AM
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I think he means that if you pick up speed while the horse is doing a running-walk (the SSH version I suppose) then they'll brake into a pace, so it's gonna be bumpier. A pace is where the right hind and forelegs move together and the left hind and forelegs move together (whereas trot is diagonal). It isn't really a horrible thing if you're just looking at the horse as a trail mount. Most of the THWs and SSHs I've ridden do it. They can only do that 4beat gait so fast...

I'm so busy, I don't know if I've found a rope... or lost my horse...
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And yes, you can call it racking too. Pretty much the same thing.

I'm so busy, I don't know if I've found a rope... or lost my horse...
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I am looking at a spotted saddle horse for sale. I asked the owner what the worst thing about the horse was, this is what he said:

"She will pace on you if you let her go too fast is the only thing wrong with her."

I have no idea what that means.
It means the horse has no faults.

Every soft gaited horse has a range of speed where it will be smooth. If you exceed this range the gait will change. In a lateral horse it usually means a move to the pace (a two beat, lateral gait).

So the fault is not with the horse, but with the rider who asked for more than the horse could deliver.

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post #8 of 23 Old 01-07-2011, 09:25 AM
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Exactly what I was going to say Guilherme! All gaited horses will "break gait" if pushed beyond their "speed zone". Some can go much faster than others before they hit this point, I would recommend trying the horse out to see how she is geared! I show a mare that can gait beautifully as fast as a canter, I would love to try gaited barrels with her. My own gelding though, is much slower. I will say though, IME(and not always, nothing is absolute) the faster more animated gaited horses tend to be less smooth. Not rough at all, but not as smooth as a slower ambler.
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post #9 of 23 Old 01-07-2011, 09:54 AM
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Exactly, the pace is the speed when the horse falls out of gait. Could be on a canter when they drop their shoulder and regain their balance, or when they go too fast at a run walk and can't maintain their form.

I have a 3 yr old walker, and she step-paces when she is trying to find her balance, if she goes too fast or when she canters as she is just learning. With time and patience it can be mostly gotten rid of, but in the gaited breed it is often what the horse goes to as their safe zone for balance.
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post #10 of 23 Old 01-09-2011, 09:31 PM
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And yes, you can call it racking too. Pretty much the same thing.
Pacing and racking is not the same. My TWH does a Rack and it is smooth
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