07-23-2009, 05:00 PM
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#21 | Yearling
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Originally Posted by CowboyIan When you talk about a 3 beat or 4 beat, what is that referring to? | The sound/beat in each step..how to say it...
Trot and clean pace is a two-beat; since the legs move in pairs, there will be two beats before all 4 hooves has hit the ground once and starts moving again. (frontleg+hindleg hits at one time = one beat, next frontleg and hindleg hits the ground =1 beat more which is 2 beats before the first fontleg mooves again) ( 1+2 - 3+4)
Canter is a 3-beat, as one frontleg and one hindleg hits the ground at the same time (=1 beat), but the other front leg and hindleg hits the ground at different times(= 2 more beats = 3 beats, and then the cycle starts over). ( 1 - 2+3 - 4)
Walk is 4 beat; all hoves hit the ground one by one, giving one beat per hoof. ( 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 )
the gaits, referred as ''gaiting'' is 4 beat.. but some are an even 4 beat ( 1- 2- 3- 4) and some, like stepping pace, is less even ( 1- 2---- 3- 4 and some are something in between) Sunny; I dunno about gallop, we say ''gallop'' about both canter and galop and say that all horses has 3 gaits, except gaited horses that has 4 or five (because they're supposed to still trot).. I think you might be right, but I dunno. |
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07-23-2009, 05:03 PM
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#22 | Green Broke
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| Well, every horse has a gallop. It's whether they choose to perform it that is questionable. Some gaited horses won't canter OR gallop.. |
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07-23-2009, 05:12 PM
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#23 | Yearling
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| You misunderstood me; we think canter and galop is the same gait :P (but what you call gallop is supposed to be a bad canter..appearantly we like to think that if two things is similiar, one of them is a bad version of the other.)
So all horses has 3 gaits; walk, trot and canter/galopp
Some horses has 4 gaits; walk, trot, tölt/rack and galop/canter
and some has 5 gaits; walk, trot, tölt/rack, canter/galop and pace (two beat only).
And God forbid that you don't trot your gaited horse as well as gait him.
That's all gaits that excits; flat walk, running walk, rack, single foot, foxtrot etc are just variations of tölt (and except rack they're all a bad tölt that you shouldn't ride because they're not pure tölt, just as you shouldn't ride a 4 beat gallop since it's just a bad canter) and amble or stepping pace is just bad pace, that's even worse than the tölt-variations :P
I personally think that we're extremely boring and stuffed up with stupid rules about what's good or bad. |
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07-23-2009, 05:16 PM
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#24 | Green Broke
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| Oh, so in Sweden a gallop and canter are the same thing?
Here, we call a gallop a step up from a canter. A whole nother gait. A 4 beat gait that can reach about 40 mph. |
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07-23-2009, 05:23 PM
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#25 | Yearling
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| Yeah, pretty much :P
Guess if I was confused untill I figured that out ;)
But Crows 4 beat canter isn't a gallop, it's rather a mix between rack and canter. He does it kinda slow, as if he hasn't completely gotten a good canter yet. It becomes 3 beat if I let him speed up, so at the moment I'm working by getting him to start a clean canter and then I try to get him to slow down without breaking it to a canter-gait mix.. I want him to be able to can'ter slowly :)
I don't think he has ever galloped with me, the times I've urged him on from the high speed three beat canter he started pacing xD |
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07-23-2009, 05:26 PM
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#26 | Green Broke
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| ^ Yeah, being a Standardbred he probably would pace instead of gallop.. Or is that just an OTT thing? |
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07-23-2009, 05:34 PM
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#27 | Yearling
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| OTT = ''off the track'' or ''off the track throughbred''? Didn't know those were gaited?
And we don't pace standardbreds here, we only trot them. :P Most of ours arn't gaited (I'm not really allowed to call him a standardbred either, he has 100% american standardbred bloodlines, but since he's born here he's by some reason a completely different breed; a swedish warmblooded trotter. And if I call him standie, or even mention his american/pacing blood, people will correct me. blergh..)
Anyway.. he picks the canter lovely without pacing, it's just if I get him to run really, really fast he might break off to a pace.. or if I ride him rather slow but then he usually trots.. |
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07-23-2009, 05:36 PM
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#28 | Green Broke
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| OTT as in 'off the track'. Notice only 2 't's ;)
Oh, he trots too? Man! Sound like that lil booger has way too many gears!! lol :) |
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07-23-2009, 05:43 PM
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#29 | Yearling
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| As I said..all gaited horses, here, are supposed to trot as well. I don't trot him at the moment tho.. but I've gotten my saddle back so I might start training that too..
But he's awfully talented *lmao* walk, rack, stepping pace, and just recently someone swore he was doing a foxtrot, and that slow flatwalk thing, and pace and canter..and ''canter-rack'' xD
And he manages to mix everthing to a nice weird soup too.. x__X
Just as you say TWHs has some physical problem if they trot, people here will say they have problems because they don't trot. |
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07-23-2009, 05:45 PM
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#30 | Green Broke
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| Hm..Weird..
Funny how different countries do different things.. |
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