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    02-16-2010, 11:04 AM
  #21
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Originally Posted by Guilherme    
For Big Lick listings start with the Walking Horse Report:

Welcome to The Walking Horse Report Online

Here's the sale page:

Tennessee Walking Horses for sale, Tennessee Walking Horse Stallions at Stud - Walking Horse Report

Get a copy of the Voice and look there, too.

If you're not familiar with Big Lick practices be REAL careful. It's not uncommon for yearlings to be in "colt packages" by 12 months of age and under saddle by 18 months (so that they can compete as two year olds). A lot of damage can be done very quickly (even without the use of illegal practices). Chronic lameness and life long difficulties in movement often result.

Shopping around the Big Lick barns is not a bad idea, but they're going to try and sell you a show prospect. If you make it clear, up front, you want a trail horse they'll find something for you but somebody pays for the upkeep and pampering on those fancy places; be prepared for some "sticker shock."

And don't even suggest that you want to "rescue" something. You'll likely be escorted off the place.

Good luck in your search.

Guilherme
Thank you SO much!




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Originally Posted by chika1235    
there is TONS IN TENNESSEE!!!! I know of some if your intrested. Its a big thing down here. But expecially in my area and in shelbyville. Theres also a lot on kentucky around louiville area. But the best quality are always I tennessee!!! I've got one that im planning on making into a big lick horse.and no im not planning on any abuse!!!i don't know why people get stirred up about that. It all depends on the handler. The shoes arent bad as long as there used rght!
Well, people get stirred up because it's completely unnatural. Even IF there happened to be a BL Walker who is NOT sored, was NOT started at twelve months old, and is not abused in any other way, they are still being forced to move like giant spiders. You will NEVER find a TWH without pads that moves even remotely like they do. It's bad for their body, plain and simple. If you walked around with your knees bent, they would start to hurt pretty quickly. If you did that every day for years, you would start to develop some serious problems.

And I'm not somebody coming from QHs or TBs or another low-stepping breed saying that it's abusive just because I think it looks weird compared to MY breed. No... I'm coming from Saddlebreds and I think that's abusive. Want to know why? Because Saddlebreds move like that naturally! TWHs do not.


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Originally Posted by southerncowgirl93    
I'd steer clear of that one for the reason that he has almost definitely been sored most of his life. It says "Good Feet" that equals minimal to no scarring from the chemicals. I do want to say that Walkers West is an amazing place with amazing horses. And they would never sore their horses. That is why they note the 'non-resident' horses.
Thanks for the heads-up. I wasn't really considering him... I'm looking for something younger.



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Originally Posted by southerncowgirl93    
However, I work at a BL barn in Fairview, TN sometimes and they have some horses for sale most of the time. If you'd like I can get some info on some of the padded ones for sale and let you know. I'd need your price range though.
That would be great if you could do that. I'm not ready to buy right now - I just want to get an idea of the average price.



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Originally Posted by Honeysuga    
I think that is the reason she posted him, she wants to take a big lick horse and "rehab" it into a normal horse again... correct me if I am wrong CM.
Yeah, that's right, but I'd rather not have one that's already permanently ruined, since I want it to be a trail horse. That's why I'm looking for something young. I wasn't even really considering the horse I posted... I was just saying that he was the only one I could find.



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Originally Posted by QHDragon    
To me I would think that you would be dealing with a lame or unsound horse for the rest of its life. Moving like that (and they start them young) has to do a lot of damage to the horse's joints. Plus I would think that after being trained to move like that they would continue to move similar even after the pads and chains were removed, and I am not sure that is something I would want to ride down the trail.
Well, I've talked to a few people who have rehabbed them and they use them for trail horses. They move just fine (although they're pacey... another way the big lick industry is ruining the breed... but that can always be fixed). It's so unnatural that they pretty much go right back to normal as soon as the pads are taken off.


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Originally Posted by QHDragon    
The last sale I went to there were two TWHs in the kill pen, and one in the saddle pen. The two in the kill pen went for $45 and $100 (and both were decent looking horses) and the one in the saddle horse pen went foe $300. Why don't you look there instead of spending 6000 on a trail horse?
The reason I want to do this is because there are thousands of people out there rescuing horses at auctions. For them, they either get rescued or shipped to slaughter. It's all over in a matter of days. These Walkers have to deal with this **** for their entire show career, and by the time that's over they're lame and ruined. There's hardly anybody out there rescuing them.

It doesn't have to be $6,000... That was just one I posted. And I'm going to turn it into a trail horse a resell it. A good trail horse can go for at least a few thousand around here.


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Originally Posted by Sunny06    
I think you've gotten good advice - if I were you, I would consider a younger one, but then you wouldn't be rehabbing it, you'd be saving it from its further training down the road. So if you want a trail-horse, I'd say get a baby - if you want just a rescue (not for trail/heavy riding), get a BL. A horse shown its whole with a possible chance of leg/joints issues has a higher chance of future problems that rougher riding may worsen over time.

Well, they aren't all "good" enough for the show ring. So by getting one that has already proven itself as a prospect, I KNOW he's going to go on to be a performance horse. If I get a baby, I have no way of knowing if he was going to end up as a trail horse anyway. But by "prospect," I mean a horse that's a month or two under saddle. Not a couple years or anything. And anyway, there are plenty of people out there who are looking for a sane trail horse they can do mostly walking and a little trotting on.
     
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    02-16-2010, 11:34 AM
  #22
Weanling
I saw that you are looking to train and resell so obviously confirmation is something you are looking into as well, one thing to look out for is stables hiding bad confirmation by parking out horse on a hill with his rear end on the lower side. Or making them stretch way to far out.

Good:



DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1368566 - Double Shot of Gold

Bad:
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1516008 - Starfire

DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1495063 - Yogi !!! PRICE REDUCED - MUST SELL !!!


(in case you didn't already know!) :)
     
    02-16-2010, 11:52 AM
  #23
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Originally Posted by Audra0729    
I saw that you are looking to train and resell so obviously confirmation is something you are looking into as well, one thing to look out for is stables hiding bad confirmation by parking out horse on a hill with his rear end on the lower side. Or making them stretch way to far out.

Good:



DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1368566 - Double Shot of Gold

Bad:
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1516008 - Starfire

DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1495063 - Yogi !!! PRICE REDUCED - MUST SELL !!!


(in case you didn't already know!) :)

Thank you : ]
     
    02-16-2010, 07:05 PM
  #24
Weanling
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Originally Posted by CloudsMystique    
Thanks for the heads-up. I wasn't really considering him... I'm looking for something younger.


That would be great if you could do that. I'm not ready to buy right now - I just want to get an idea of the average price.

Ok. I'll get some numbers and try to figure out the average.
     
    02-16-2010, 10:03 PM
  #25
Yearling
This seems to fit your criteria perfectly:

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Guilherme
     
    02-17-2010, 04:45 PM
  #26
Foal
If you start querying big lick barns to "rescue" one of their horses, just be careful. The "good ole boys" aren't too welcoming of people who don't like their abuse.

I won't preach too much, but suffice it to say that this is one industry I'd love to see fall down HARD.

www.hphoofcare.com/lick.html
     
    04-20-2010, 04:44 PM
  #27
Foal
Try Stonewall Acres in KY. We "rescued" a mare from them two summers ago. She was on pads, had been sored, had severe phobia regarding her ears and the farrier, but she can rack a hole in the ground. We sold her to a friend and the mare is now a fabulous trail horse. But, of course, the two of them are very well matched. Lots of love, calmness, and trust.....
I was told that she had been on pads for 9 months and was never sored. Her pasterns tell us that she was sored and the mustard oil, heavy chains, and whip by the door confirmed it. There was no way we were going to leave her behind.
Best of luck to you! But if you are looking for a beautiful TWH mare that has NEVER been padded or abused in anyway, doesn't have anything but trust and love for humans, with respect, and is a sound experienced trails horse, then I have a wonderful girl for you.
     
    05-27-2010, 11:04 PM
  #28
Banned
Glovers stables could direct you in the direction of big lick horses for sale. Located in florida..
     
    06-02-2010, 10:56 PM
  #29
Foal
The BL industry is full of controversy, some say its ok some say its not. I have known a few padded horse, in fact the horse I own now was at one time padded. I was told that when they padded him he would not big lick. I bought him for pennies. He has a bloodline to die for, looks to kill, common sense you search for ever for in a good gelding... He is only three, and when he is under saddle he refuses to canter as he has some issues with it. He stumbles over everything, we have actually had him trip and fall over a small rut in the dirt, his feet will never be the same. His legs had already begun to turn and shift into an unnatural angle, and he has some serious trust issues.
Due to the miss use of these pads a good three year old shpow quality horse was ruined. He will never be able to do his natural gaits. Some can say this is natural but I think the pads are cruel and inhumane. I would seriously consider being aware of these big lick horses. I have found one around here and will post her link for you.
Reg. Tennessee Walker REDUCED!
Just another thing to add, I knew a lady who owned an 18 year old and a 2 year old walker, both had pads and were showing, we could stand in the barn 4 stalls down and listen to theses poor horses moan and rustle in there stalls because they hurt so horibly after a ten minute walk around the arena. evil:

Im sorry it was so long but I feel very strongly about this.
     
    06-03-2010, 12:33 AM
  #30
Banned
When I was younger, I rode a former Big Lick horse who actually made it to the celebration and placed second. He was a doll baby and we only had a few issues that directly came from him being 'Big Lick'. He had hanging skin on his shoulder from the loss of muscle after the pads were off. It never really hindered his movement but he had a biggggg canter and you were constantly fixing his saddle because he couldnt wear a breast collar. Secondly, he came to us with what they though was heaves. He was just out of gas. Some of them need to be a horse for a year before they get back into riding. He was young, he never had any trouble breathing afterwards and til the day he died he had more stamina than any other horse at the barn. He had great feet...he was sored and he did recover. He was incredibly gaited and never paced...the only thing that stayed 'Big Lick' on him was his canter. We attempted to show in as a plantation walker but when he appeared to be rearing while cantering (no exaggeration) we were docked points. The only concern I would have as a trail horse is that as youngsters, they're not really exposed to the outside world much. You know this from saddlebreds im sure but put em in a show ring with an announcer and bunting hanging from the rafters and they're fine...show em a deer on the trail and they will fall over dead. Good luck in your search and if you find one near PA...shoot me a PM. I might just scoop him/her up!
     

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