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post #31 of 59 Old 01-23-2013, 09:20 PM
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I watched just over three min. And then u-tube and/or AT&T DSL decided I'd seen enough.

First, language.

The trot is a gait. The pace is a gait. The movements in between are gaits. This horse is "gaiting." It's not doing a square, running walk, but it's gaiting.

I call it a "stepping pace." I'd like to watch it again, but the Internet gods have decreed otherwise. It looks pretty smooth. The movement overall looks good. It seems well trained (nice lateral movement over the bar and turns).

It's not a running walk or anything close but it's not extreme and horse does not seem to be laboring or under any undue stress.

I'm not surprised that many horses in CA move this way; most Walkers (and those breeds derived from them), everywhere, move this way today. The gait looks comfortable, just not square.

If I'm looking for brood stock I'd reject a horse that moved like this unless I saw evidence (like foals on the ground) that with the right mate it would produce foals that move more squarely. But if I'm looking for a well trained, quiet, comfortable riding horse then this one would make at least the "first cut."

Have you tried an CA Marchador folks? Ours "gait" too!!!

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post #32 of 59 Old 01-23-2013, 09:37 PM
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Oh, some Paso's can and do pace. ;)

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I would *love* to try a Marchador. I just never saw any for sale when I was looking.

The pace can be smoother than a trot, but not as smooth as a 4 beat gait. Finding a gaited horse that well trained is not easy. :) I have to admit, several of the horses I tried whose gaits looked smooth in the videos turned out to feel more like trotting. The owners had become so used to the bouncy pace/step pace that they could make it look smooth, much like a good o/f equation rider. I have enough experience that I could get these horses to gait (mostly rack) for a few steps, and that was much better than pacing. Actually, I like a nice rack. I would love to try a speed racking horse sometime. My icelandic has a nice, slow rack right now. I hope to be able to speed it up.

So would a pacy horse be good to breed with a trotter?

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I watched just over three min. And then u-tube and/or AT&T DSL decided I'd seen enough.

First, language.

The trot is a gait. The pace is a gait. The movements in between are gaits. This horse is "gaiting." It's not doing a square, running walk, but it's gaiting.

I call it a "stepping pace." I'd like to watch it again, but the Internet gods have decreed otherwise. It looks pretty smooth. The movement overall looks good. It seems well trained (nice lateral movement over the bar and turns).

It's not a running walk or anything close but it's not extreme and horse does not seem to be laboring or under any undue stress.

I'm not surprised that many horses in CA move this way; most Walkers (and those breeds derived from them), everywhere, move this way today. The gait looks comfortable, just not square.

If I'm looking for brood stock I'd reject a horse that moved like this unless I saw evidence (like foals on the ground) that with the right mate it would produce foals that move more squarely. But if I'm looking for a well trained, quiet, comfortable riding horse then this one would make at least the "first cut."

Have you tried an CA Marchador folks? Ours "gait" too!!!

G.
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post #34 of 59 Old 01-23-2013, 11:25 PM
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I would *love* to try a Marchador. I just never saw any for sale when I was looking.

The pace can be smoother than a trot, but not as smooth as a 4 beat gait. Finding a gaited horse that well trained is not easy. :) I have to admit, several of the horses I tried whose gaits looked smooth in the videos turned out to feel more like trotting. The owners had become so used to the bouncy pace/step pace that they could make it look smooth, much like a good o/f equation rider. I have enough experience that I could get these horses to gait (mostly rack) for a few steps, and that was much better than pacing. Actually, I like a nice rack. I would love to try a speed racking horse sometime. My icelandic has a nice, slow rack right now. I hope to be able to speed it up.

So would a pacy horse be good to breed with a trotter?
To answer the last question first, "it depends."

I'd always rather have a women demo rider than a man. If she has long hair in a pony tail it's even better. That's because a pony tail is one of two, female anatomical features that will reflect the "smoothness" of a horse without fail as the rider really can't control them.

I guess I guy with pony tail shares one feature with the female so that works, too. Just not as "scenic" from my point of view!!!!

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post #35 of 59 Old 01-24-2013, 11:02 AM
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LOL^^^^^^ that is SO true....a jiggle and wiggle will surely show up with a female rider...that's why I wear two sports bras...

That cracks me up!

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post #36 of 59 Old 01-24-2013, 12:52 PM
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I think it would be hard to judge. He is young and not used to carrying a rider. The picture of the man on him is riding in a chair seat and that may have added to his poor gait. That is a lot of weight over his loin. If the saddle didn't fit well plus the weight, he may have paced to decrease the pain.
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post #37 of 59 Old 01-24-2013, 03:19 PM
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"The picture of the man on him is riding in a chair seat and that may have added to his poor gait."

The chair seat is the proper way to ride a gaited horse. If you ride in an equitation seat and/or forward seat, you will be promoting the trot and/or pace.

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post #38 of 59 Old 01-24-2013, 03:26 PM
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Gaited horses are bred to cover long distances at the rider's comfort. I have owned several gaited and 1/2 gaited, TWH's and KMH's, and they all had one thing in common. They preferred to be ridden on the trail, where they can stretch their "legs", so to speak, and really get into the running walk or amble. I used my QH/TWH ("Tyke," 1970-2998, RIP) for riding lessons, and he didn't like to do a run walk, but would often pace, trot or perform the "broken washing machine" gait.
Get him out on the trail and you always got the best ride. TWH's will drop their haunches down and just eat up the trail with their running walk. Same with KMH's and RMH's, with a slight difference in gait--THEY handle climbing better than a TWH.
You can Dressage a gaited horse, too, and improve their strength. Even if your gaited horse doesn't always "gait" for you, they don't forget it, since it's genetic, anyway. Try collection exercises and cavaletti, trail obstacles, etc.

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post #39 of 59 Old 01-24-2013, 10:41 PM
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"The picture of the man on him is riding in a chair seat and that may have added to his poor gait."

The chair seat is the proper way to ride a gaited horse. If you ride in an equitation seat and/or forward seat, you will be promoting the trot and/or pace.
A "chair seat" is the proper way to ride a gaited if, but only if, a "show gait" is all you're looking for. Any horse can do that for a few minutes in a ring. Ride horse like that for a few hours and you'll sore up the back bigger than Dallas.

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post #40 of 59 Old 01-24-2013, 11:37 PM
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I used to think I couldn't afford a gaited horse but I lucked out and found a MFT for $500. She's not perfect, but she is on the trotty side, she WILL fox trot, probably hard trot (when she goes fast her fox trot gets bumpy so I assume it is a hard trot at that point) but only paces if I am trying to canter her.

I have a friend who owns 3 MFT right now and two fox trot and one prefers more of a racking type gait, but they do NOT step pace/pace as their normal gait.

We had a someone out to ride with us one time who had a MFT that DID move like the horse in the videos, and he looked smooth, but I knew that was a stepping pace and really wasn't the gait the MFT is supposed to do.

I guess my point is, where I live at least, that is not "how all gaited horses move." Honest.
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