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        11-11-2012, 10:25 AM
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    Love your avatar :P
    Thanks. That's exactly the reaction I'd have if someone said 'vegan Thanksgiving' to me!
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        11-11-2012, 11:21 AM
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    Weanling
    Haha grass is always greener. I know a few whom were threatening to move to Australia (never mind Canada) because of this election.

    Honestly, finding what where, depends on what circles you travel in. Like in south Mississippi area for example. Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana are pretty hard core old school Hunter types, with plugs of Polo and Polocrosse. However, Western Trail, Western Horsemanship/Equitation and such are trying to make a come back. Now Tennessee is hit or miss. SW TN is heavy Hunter and Gaited territory, but there is a lot of western here too (Barrels, Cows, Donkey Penning, Team Penning, etc). East TN is a heavy Gaited hitter as far as I know. North Mississippi is Fox Hunting territory, and has a few Polo farms.

    So you really have to research where you want to be. Even though areas in the NE around Massachusetts and Connecticut are heavy Eventing circles, and New York and New Jersey are major racehorse zones, it is a different area of living with a really heavy horse zone than compared to the Mid South area. There is a lot of money up that way and a different cost and expectation of living. I'd find Texas and Colorado possibly comparable on the Western compliment.

    If I had to pick anywhere in the states for horse anything though, it would probably be Florida. Florida is horse central now between West Palm Beach, Gainesville, Ocala, and I think maybe Sarasota. It's the new home for Hunters, Eventers, Dressage, Natural Horsemanship, Racing, and probably most of the Western disciplines as well, especially on the cow and ranch end of things. Mostly because everyone winters down there, but many stay all year around.
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        11-11-2012, 12:34 PM
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    My step dad got a $300 dollar ticket while talking on his cellphone, he lives there. Lol,
         
        11-11-2012, 12:38 PM
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    If you have an unlimited income, which is likely to continue Ellieandrose, then move to the US by all means. If not, then I suggest you visit and do some travelling. The US isn't like the movies. It's difficult to get a clear view of any country, unless one has visited often and travelled quite a bit.

    America is in trouble. No doubt about it. Millions out of work. Very high crime. Terrible gang and drug problems in cities and finding their way into smaller towns too.

    Thousands have had to part with their horses and many, even their dogs after losing their homes. Small farmers watching their farms go to auction after being in the family for generations. Whole streets of empty homes in many areas, because people have lost their jobs and can no longer afford to keep their homes.

    We have relatives in Australia, who used to visit regularly but they'd never actually move here. I have lived and worked all over the US. There is some fabulous country here, if you can afford to live and work there. But there is also extreme poverty here and getting worse. Most will not see it and especially if you live in another country. In southern California, where everything is expensive, we have a huge population of families living out in the desert or under bridges, with no homes at all. Many are educated people who have lost their jobs and homes.

    If you have education and expertise in work that is highly desired and going unfilled in the US, then I suspect you could find work here and make a living. If not, then I'd suggest visiting here many times, before deciding on a move.

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        11-11-2012, 12:40 PM
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    Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
    If you have an unlimited income, which is likely to continue Ellieandrose, then move to the US by all means. If not, then I suggest you visit and do some travelling. The US isn't like the movies. It's difficult to get a clear view of any country, unless one has visited often and travelled quite a bit.

    America is in trouble. No doubt about it. Millions out of work. Very high crime. Terrible gang and drug problems in cities and finding their way into smaller towns too.

    Thousands have had to part with their horses and many, even their dogs after losing their homes. Small farmers watching their farms go to auction after being in the family for generations. Whole streets of empty homes in many areas, because people have lost their jobs and can no longer afford to keep their homes.

    We have relatives in Australia, who used to visit regularly but they'd never actually move here. I have lived and worked all over the US. There is some fabulous country here, if you can afford to live and work there. But there is also extreme poverty here and getting worse. Most will not see it and especially if you live in another country. In southern California, where everything is expensive, we have a huge population of families living out in the desert or under bridges, with no homes at all. Many are educated people who have lost their jobs and homes.

    If you have education and expertise in work that is highly desired and going unfilled in the US, then I suspect you could find work here and make a living. If not, then I'd suggest visiting here many times, before deciding on a move.

    Lizzie
    Very well said.
         
        11-11-2012, 01:04 PM
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    Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
    If you have an unlimited income, which is likely to continue Ellieandrose, then move to the US by all means. If not, then I suggest you visit and do some travelling. The US isn't like the movies. It's difficult to get a clear view of any country, unless one has visited often and travelled quite a bit.

    America is in trouble. No doubt about it. Millions out of work. Very high crime. Terrible gang and drug problems in cities and finding their way into smaller towns too.

    Thousands have had to part with their horses and many, even their dogs after losing their homes. Small farmers watching their farms go to auction after being in the family for generations. Whole streets of empty homes in many areas, because people have lost their jobs and can no longer afford to keep their homes.

    We have relatives in Australia, who used to visit regularly but they'd never actually move here. I have lived and worked all over the US. There is some fabulous country here, if you can afford to live and work there. But there is also extreme poverty here and getting worse. Most will not see it and especially if you live in another country. In southern California, where everything is expensive, we have a huge population of families living out in the desert or under bridges, with no homes at all. Many are educated people who have lost their jobs and homes.

    If you have education and expertise in work that is highly desired and going unfilled in the US, then I suspect you could find work here and make a living. If not, then I'd suggest visiting here many times, before deciding on a move.

    Lizzie
    That's painting a rather dim picture. Perhaps much of what you say is true in Southern California, but the left coast doesn't represent the nation.

    Unlimited income? The median price of a house in the poster's hometown, Canberra, is over $500,000. In all of Australia it is $459,000. In the US it is $184,000. The median household income in the US is $52,000. In Australia it is $44,000. Gasoline is much cheaper, food is about the same.

    While every country and every town has its positives and negatives, the "unlimited income" statement is rather uninformed. Perhaps it takes unlimited income in Southern California, but Southern California is hardly representative of the US...
         
        11-11-2012, 01:14 PM
      #17
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    Originally Posted by KeepCalmAndTrotOn    
    My step dad got a $300 dollar ticket while talking on his cellphone, he lives there. Lol,
    While talking on his cell phone WHILE DRIVING. It's the same as the difference between having a couple of beers while he's home watching TV, and having those beers when he's driving down the freeway.
         
        11-11-2012, 01:20 PM
      #18
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Ellieandrose    
    I was looking at western saddles the other day, or at least I tried to. All western saddle around Canberra I could find were synthetic.
    So why wouldn't you want a synthetic saddle? Compare the weight of one (mine's 17 lbs) against the 30 lbs or more of a traditional one, and think of your poor horse having to carry around those extra pounds all day.

    On the original question, the US is a big and diverse place. Around here (northern Nevada & northeastern California) there are people who do showing and stuff, but most just go out and trail ride.
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        11-11-2012, 01:21 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Im in an area where you could be decently off with 30,000 a year. Very well off with 50,000 a year. My house is in the 30-40k range, 3bdr 1 bath, on 1/2 an acre of land. That's cheap as dirt from where I am originally from in New Jersey where I grew up 3bdr 1 bath 2 floor on less than a 1/4 acre is worth 300k or better and you need at least 60,000 a year to do decent. Taxes are worlds apart as well (difference between a few hundred to several thousand).

    This country is so big the next state over can be worlds away.
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        11-11-2012, 01:26 PM
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    I think it is funny and ironic the amount of people trying to get out of the United States and the amount dreaming about it and wanting to get in. If I lived in another country and wanted to move to the United States I would at least wait 4 more years. As much as I love my country and was once very proud to be an American I am ashamed of many of our recent decisions and I believe America (as we know it) is on a fast downward spiral. I'm not trying to say America is all bad though. We have many,many freedoms that we take for granted that many parts of the world have never had and likely never will. Sadly, I don't believe our freedoms will last and America will just become another country...not the highly dramatized "land of the free". Our "freedoms" are slowly being stolen from us while most of America is distracted with smaller,but very publicized issues so they don't notice. I'm not trying to be a pessimistic doom and gloomer... Just a passing opinion...from a very concerned citizen of a place I no longer wish to live.
         

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