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post #21 of 92 Old 11-11-2012, 02:04 PM
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I really meant, an unlimited 'source' of income, Faceman. I should have made that clear.

I must say I have several American friends, who I've lost to other countries. I also think that many in other countries, have a distorted view of America. I know all my rellies in the UK, are doing better than we are here. They have their pensions and free health care, yet for some reason, some still think we live in the lap of luxury here. I worked most of my adult life in the US. A few years ago, when gangs took over our lovely little street, we had to move overnight, in fear for our lives. We could no longer pay our mortgage, since we couldn't live in the house, so lost our good credit and the hundreds of thousands of dollars, we had put into that home. Losing everything, almost destroyed us and certainly had a terrible effect on our health. If it had not been for our daughter who took us in, I can't imagine what would have happened to us.

I do think some states are worse off than others. California is now 16 billion dollars in dept. Our school teachers are being fired by the thousands, yet more children enter schools each year. Our schools are falling down. Some with no doors on the bathrooms.

If one doesn't speak Spanish, it is difficult to get a decent job here. As with other border states, we spend millions on trying to teach the children who don't speak English and who have come across the border illegally, with their parents. Arizona and Texas suffer similarly.

Our Social Security is being taken away, little by little, yearly. Try living on less than $900 a month SS, in S. California. Thank God for the dollar stores. If it were not for our daughter (who owns Harlequin farms) and who helps us out, I hate to think where we would be. And she has now sold almost all her horses and is having to move. She was one of the school teachers who also lost her job three years ago. I don't know about other states these days, but I can only say it's incredibly difficult to live in California these days.

Strangely enough, the other day, a woman hearing my English accent, asked if I was happy to be in America and be 'free'!! Just shows what people don't know about other countries.

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Wow what a strange direction this conversation has taken.

As a none American who has lived here for 11 years now, I love this country. There is no utopia anywhere in the world, it's unreasonable to expect that somewhere would be perfect. The majority of the world is in a recession, so I can't imagine wanting to jump ship because of something like that, or politics.

Heck I am not even American, and I work to improve my community in any way I can.

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It is getting bad in America. I lived in So Cal, & saw that I couldn't go on the way I was.So, I sold my house & bought in AZ. I really looked at the property taxes & made a buying decision to where I could afford it (1/5th of what I used to pay) & that has helped. But our dollar stores really aren't-there are many things that are priced much higher & food is more expensive also. Gas & DMV fees are much better, but when it's hot -it's scorching & when it's cold (like now)-well-I have lots of layers on & a small fire going & LOTS of blankets on the bed. Life is a struggle & I really miss what I used to have. And I only see it getting a lot worse unless I'm lucky enough to win a lottery. LOL!
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I think, AlexS, that few are always happy with the politics in their country. I certainly wouldn't jump ship because of politics and I do follow politics in the US, fairly closely. I do think in many countries, including the US, there is a lot of waste, the money of which, could be better served in different ways. I don't think anyone thinks a new place will be a utopa. Every country and area, has their good and not-so-good places. There are still some wonderful areas in S. California, IF you can afford to live there.

Years ago when I was young, people seldom ventured far from home and hardly ever visited other countries. Now of course, it is very different. The internet has also brought most of us, much closer.

For anyone thinking of moving within the US, there is a good place to find data about different cities and areas.

Stats about all US cities - real estate, relocation info, crime, house prices, cost of living, races, home value estimator, recent sales, income, photos, schools, maps, weather, neighborhoods, and more

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Arizona was my first home, when I came to the US. I really loved it there.

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Wow what a strange direction this conversation has taken.

As a none American who has lived here for 11 years now, I love this country. There is no utopia anywhere in the world, it's unreasonable to expect that somewhere would be perfect. The majority of the world is in a recession, so I can't imagine wanting to jump ship because of something like that, or politics.

Heck I am not even American, and I work to improve my community in any way I can.

Happy Veteran's Day everyone.
And that is the heritage of Americans - working to help improve it. Our heritage is not taking our dollies and running home when the game doesn't go exactly as we think it should. I am as concerned about the direction we are going as anyone - likely more concerned than most. But running away from a problem is rarely the most prudent choice. It is one thing to leave one's country for opportunity and/or adventure, but quite another to run away from problems when we have the power in our hands to solve those problems. There is a reason people around the world want to come here...it is sad to see Americans take their freedoms and privileges for granted. I suspect if Scottie beamed them to any number of other countries for a few years they would come back with a different perspective...
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I really meant, an unlimited 'source' of income, Faceman. I should have made that clear.
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There is a reason people around the world want to come here...

The problem is Faceman, that hundreds of thousands come here illegally and nothing really has been done to stop it. I had to jump through many hoops, when coming here from England. All kinds of trips to London to have my health checked. Background checks and more. Shots against diseases which were unknown in England. And yet now, I see people coming here from across the border illegally, getting all kinds of perks, purely because they have children, filling up our hospitals and not being able to pay, while we - the taxpayers, must foot the bill for it all. I hope you can understand, why it makes so many of us very unhappy.

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The problem is Faceman, that hundreds of thousands come here illegally and nothing really has been done to stop it.[/B] . And yet now, I see people coming here from across the border illegally, getting all kinds of perks, purely because they have children, filling up our hospitals and not being able to pay, while we - the taxpayers, must foot the bill for it all. I hope you can understand, why it makes so many of us very unhappy.

This is a HUGE problem in America. And honestly,frustratingly, and sadly one of the direct causes of our crashing economic system. Of course so many Americans don't want to work. The harder they work and the more they earn and become more successful the more the government steps in and decides they shouldn't get what they earned so they take it and give it to illegals and the people just want to live off the system. I know there are exceptions and special circumstances in some cases. I'm not putting a canvas over the whole thing. But the way our government is dealing with these kinds of things is so wrong and so far gone that I really truly don't believe we are ever going to get it back.

Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?-Edgar Allen Poe
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There's a very good reason, why those in northern California, want to become a separate state and not be involved in all the troubles we suffer in S. Cal.

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Norther CA. And So. Oregon combined....I'm all for the State of Jefferson ;)


http://www.jeffersonstate.com/

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