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        11-13-2012, 04:52 PM
      #71
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    Tiny comeon out! (and bring me Mac!!!) I'll take you in! Got an extra barn we can convert, a couple thousand miles of trails we can ride, as much good home cookin as you can stomach, and I LOVE LOVE LOVE my "neighbors"! (you just can't run to the store out here, or go to the movies, or see an art exhibit, or grab a bite to eat without devoting an entire day and spending a couple hundred dollars getting there and doing whatever you need to get done!)

    We are a weird tourism area, a LOT like CO or some small towns in MT. Lots of "expats" from Colorado, Oklahoma, California, and Texas... When people get here they don't leave. Great thing is there is very little privately owned land or mass jobs available so we still get to be hardy mountain folk. One of my neighbors (12 miles away) provides all the liquor, another all the beef, I trade eggs for celery and lettuce with my friend from the UK (she moved here to get away from socialism, face palm, and isn't too happy about our current situation)!

    We do have a MAJOR temporary music and art scene thanks to us. We currently bring in over 250+ bands/musicians, and 50,000+ people from all around the country/world... Going to double if not triple that next year (if the world doesn't implode, or the economy crash, or if the Mayans have it right LOL!) So I get my dose of large city livin, out here in the sticks, but get to send them home after a few days! LOL!

    Invite is open to everyone!
         
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        11-13-2012, 05:10 PM
      #72
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    Man, that sounds just SO cool!! I have been to Arkansas, way back in the stone ages. My family took a trip around the US, with a trailer, a stationwagon and a panting dog in the back. We spent a week at Table Rock Lake. I remember being amazd at how the fish nibbled at our toes. Sure was darn hot , though. Our Westie dog nearly died from heat stroke.
         
        11-13-2012, 06:08 PM
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    Originally Posted by jamesqf    
    So exactly how was this different from the US at the time? Granted, I was not around for most of the '50s, and too young to pay attention for the rest, but by the '60s it was fairly open, at least among younger people in the places I lived. (Of course the US was and is considerably more diverse than Britain.)

    We might also note that (as of this election) gay marriage is legal in a fifth of US states, but not in Britain.
    I think the difference I saw, James, was the fact that in the US, people didn't speak of it much in the open, as much as in the UK. This was in the early '60's, when I first came to the US. Many who were homosexuals here, never admitted it. I think only in recent years, have most 'come out'.

    I also think that some, think this is something modern. It has been well known and documented, for many hundreds of years and in many countries. It was so widespread in the 1500's and before in the UK, that (I think) it was King Henry Vlll who outlawed the practice. He being head of the new Church of England. Not that he had room to talk really, of anything concerning morals!

    There are I'm sure, still wildly funny old laws on the books, in many countries. I remember as a four or five year old, I lived in a small village in Norfolk. On the village green was a grand old oak tree. Probably several hundred years old. From a branch, hung a chain attached to a metal thing which would be put over the head of a criminal and locked, so all the locals could see who had done what. I was told women were often placed in this head thing, because they had been found guilty of 'scolding'. This either their husbands, children or somebody else. I believe this particular law was only brought to an end, in the 1960's.

    I also remember when I was about 5 years old, going to the local little shop to purchase cigarettes and a box of matches, for my doctor's wife. The shopkeeper could sell me the cigarettes, but not matches. He said it was illegal to sell matches on a Sunday. I remember that, to this day. It was a little shop, half way down Grapes Hill, in Norwich. Funny stuff. I wonder if it is still illegal to sell matches on a Sunday, in England.

    Lizzie
         
        11-13-2012, 06:44 PM
      #74
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    I once heard on the news about someone making use of an old law in London to avoid a parking fine. Apparently the guy who had been given the parking fine decided to opt for trial by combat, which was still on the books. He offered to put on armour and get a sword and fight to prove his innocence if a representative from the bunch who issued the parking fine was willing to do the same. I thought it was pretty cool. Shame we can't still do it, would sure make Judge Judy a lot more interesting.
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        11-13-2012, 11:18 PM
      #75
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    Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
    I think the difference I saw, James, was the fact that in the US, people didn't speak of it much in the open, as much as in the UK. This was in the early '60's, when I first came to the US. Many who were homosexuals here, never admitted it. I think only in recent years, have most 'come out'.
    I think that was more down to basic attitudes towards privacy in the US. Unlike the UK (which as far as I can see, has zero respect for anyone's privacy), the US attitude generally used to be (unfortunately, it's changed a lot in recent years) that people's sex lives were nobody else's business "as long as you don't do it in the street and scare the horses", as the saying goes.
         
        11-14-2012, 12:05 AM
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    Originally Posted by jamesqf    
    I think that was more down to basic attitudes towards privacy in the US. Unlike the UK (which as far as I can see, has zero respect for anyone's privacy).
    Why do you say that?
         
        11-14-2012, 12:06 AM
      #77
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    Originally Posted by Ellieandrose    
    So, ever since I was little(well littler) I have adored America! I love the western scene you guys have over there. Here in the capital of Australia we are all pretty ride english. I am at every rodeo around Canberra. One day I hope to take me, my horse and my dog over to live in America. To shorten that all up **** I love you guys!
    How odd...I've always thought it would be far better to live in Australia.
         
        11-14-2012, 12:35 AM
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    Originally Posted by jamesqf    
    I think that was more down to basic attitudes towards privacy in the US. Unlike the UK (which as far as I can see, has zero respect for anyone's privacy), the US attitude generally used to be (unfortunately, it's changed a lot in recent years) that people's sex lives were nobody else's business "as long as you don't do it in the street and scare the horses", as the saying goes.
    I think you missed the point entirely. I was trying to explain that nobody cared in the UK, if someone was straight, gay or anything else. I found in the US, people hid it and didn't want to talk about it. And yes, that has slowly changed here.

    I presume you have lived in the UK. Why do you think there is zero respect there for anyone's privacy? I never found it to be so.

    Lizzie
         
        11-14-2012, 01:24 PM
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    Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
    I think you missed the point entirely. I was trying to explain that nobody cared in the UK, if someone was straight, gay or anything else. I found in the US, people hid it and didn't want to talk about it. And yes, that has slowly changed here.
    Maybe it's perspective, but to me it seems that all this "coming out" is in fact making a point of caring. It's like... well, if you go to the hospital for surgery, I will wish for your speedy recovery, and perhaps send a card or flowers, or even visit, but I have absolutely no interest in hearing about all the details of the unpleasant symptoms, or examining your stitches.


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    I presume you have lived in the UK. Why do you think there is zero respect there for anyone's privacy? I never found it to be so.
    Tabloids, Diana, Rupert Murdoch...
         
        11-14-2012, 03:55 PM
      #80
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    You are talking about the paparazzi - they have no respect for anyone's privacy and that is a fact!

    Times change and not always for the better.
    Long gone in most areas when everyone knew everyone and helped out whenever they could. Children were generally safe because every adult would correct them if needed regardless of whether they knew who they were or not.

    Troubles were common knowledge therefore they were not bottled up and made worse. They were sorted by the neighbours and that was that. I guess in that respect there was little privacy but there was certainly a unity in each neighbourhood.

    The Brits have always been far more broad minded than the Americans, when matters like homosexuality arose a blind eye was turned. Not so anymore.
         

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