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post #131 of 347 Old 07-24-2013, 01:56 PM
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You're point is invalid with the military, they try to accommodate everyone but the reality is they can't and they know it. Knowing that, they try and do the best the can for majority and this is one of those cases. With an unlimited budget, unlimited number of personnel and unlimited resources they could accommodate the 1 or 1000 or 10000000 but we live in reality not fantasy land.
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You're point is invalid with the military, they try to accommodate everyone but the reality is they can't and they know it. Knowing that, they try and do the best the can for majority and this is one of those cases. With an unlimited budget, unlimited number of personnel and unlimited resources they could accommodate the 1 or 1000 or 10000000 but we live in reality not fantasy land.
I don't think adding another group to the list will cost that much in resources :)
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post #133 of 347 Old 07-24-2013, 02:17 PM
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As an agnostic, I often offer comfort to all my friends regardless of their beliefs (or lack thereof). I am not less because I don't quote scripture at them. A compassionate person is compassionate by nature, not religion and my thoughts, words and actions are not of lesser value to those who turn to me in a time of crisis.
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You missed the part where I said doing the best they can for as many as they can. Putting an atheist in that position doesn't make the cut.
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A very good friend of my father's was a university educated theologian who became and army chaplain. As he spoke with soldiers he was skillful enough to touch everyone and the words god and jesus weren't mentioned. Nor did he quote from the bible. It isn't necessary.
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As an agnostic, I often offer comfort to all my friends regardless of their beliefs (or lack thereof). I am not less because I don't quote scripture at them. A compassionate person is compassionate by nature, not religion and my thoughts, words and actions are not of lesser value to those who turn to me in a time of crisis.
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I honestly don't think agnostic and atheist should be pigeon holed together. They are two different beliefs. Agnostic believe something is out there they just don't know what. It could be an advanced alien race, it might be God, it could be a super advanced AI or anything else that comes to mind. Atheist believe there is nothing out there.

But here's the other issue you are not running into in your position. No one is coming to you expecting answers about theological questions, that's what they go to their chaplain for.
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Darrin: And I disagree that only a religiously trained person can do the job. It takes a compassionate individual to handle the great variances in people's backgrounds and belief systems. Perhaps the military should do away with chaplains completely and just use trained counselors and therapists. THOSE individuals could serve everyone without the worry over religion (or lack thereof).
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I only say that I am agnostic. Agnostics have similar problems to atheists when it comes to this type of question. All the religious people want to shove us in a corner and treat us as "less" or without value because we do not buy into organized religion.
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And just how do you plan to answer questions on religion and give sermons to the people under your command without the back ground?
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Why should the military provide it? Can a Christian chaplain minister to the Muslims, Jews, and Buddhists in their command? Can they put together an appropriate service for all? Why is the military wasting resources on religion in the first place?
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