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post #191 of 347 Old 07-26-2013, 03:48 PM
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There was a small group of older women in the UK village I moved from that were the mainstay of the little church there and central to everything that went on, it should sound homely and comforting yet they were also the source of all the bad gossip, petty complaints, ill will and spitefulness that gives that sort of Christian a bad name and sets a bad example.
Surely if someone says Happy Holiday they are at least being pleasant and wishing you well? I have no problem with it. Its the thought behind it that counts.
Whatever happened to the love thy neighbor and tolerance that Christ tried to teach?
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Oh I can't help myself, this whole discussion makes me want to post this - darn it

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We'uns who live in southern Virginia are far too close to the Baptist holy city (Lynchburg) to say anything except Merry Christmas!

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post #194 of 347 Old 07-26-2013, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernTrailsGA View Post
Shame on you for living there

In the last few years, the amount of people having to say or saying Happy Holidays has decreased in most stores, maybe because of Public Outrage of them being forced to say that

When I worked in customer service for a short while - we were not allowed to say Merry Christmas unless the customer said it first - then we could feel free to do so as well.

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post #195 of 347 Old 07-26-2013, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton View Post
Ironic??? I thought liking a post means you agree or like, at least somewhat, what the poster is saying. What is ironic about that?
You were saying people shouldn't get bent out of shape if someone wishes them happy anything... yet some of those who "liked" it get bent out of shape if someone says happy holidays... if you can't see the irony, then I can't help you.

ETA: Southern has explained why... he doesn't like people being forced to do it.

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post #196 of 347 Old 07-26-2013, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Faceman View Post
Yes, "you people" - do you have a problem with that? The context is clear, as is the meaning. People that constantly refer to Christmas as just being a modification of some pagan holiday are full of crap. Christmas is, and always has been, a celebration of the birth of Christ. Period...
I suspect this is a combination of colloquial use, and typed language leading to misinterpretation by me.

I would never use "you people" unless I was being deliberately aggressive in tone and meaning. I would use "you" meaning the many people I am addressing. When I read your statement I was so surprised at the aggression in that first statement that I reacted strongly to it.

This may be an international language use thing....

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Originally Posted by RedHorseRidge View Post
You were saying people shouldn't get bent out of shape if someone wishes them happy anything... yet some of those who "liked" it get bent out of shape if someone says happy holidays... if you can't see the irony, then I can't help you.

ETA: Southern has explained why... he doesn't like people being forced to do it.

As I read their posts the posters said they will never say Happy Holidays themselves. They said nothing about being offended if someone said it to them.
And I think it is pretty much a given, most people, that are offended by happy holidays, are offended when they or anyone, is forbidden to say Merry Christmas.

So, you can read irony into whatever you wish, I do not believe it applies here.
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Everything written about Jesus birth (which is a story that came much later) was all based on Equinox and the Pagan rituals. The story of Jesus being born in a stable, think about it, the reality. A baby born in a stable would have had zero chance of survival as would the mother. It wouldn't have been the lovely fluffed up feed box we see depicted. And how did the shepherds and wise men follow the star to the stable. A star that's thousands of miles high would be shining over entire cities. It makes for an imaginative read but definitely not feasible.
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Ok! Go tell the billion people in Africa they should be dead for being born/birthing in huts... And what do you think the sailors did before GPS? Ummmm, that would be navigate by the stars.

I'm terribly sorry so many of you have had poor experiences with so called religious people...
But in general they are a good lot. Regardless of all the wars that have been waged throughout history (that have gotten us to where we are now) there is a lot to be thankful for when it comes to religious charity and morality. I wonder what the percentage of purely Atheist charity is compared to say... Christian Missionary work, Mormon service, etc...
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flygap, I imagine a lot of women and infants DO die from unsanitary conditions and lack of healthcare.

actually, given the sheer number of believers, im sure the charitable contributions are greater.My one ex FB friend (unfriended for being an ignorant hateful thing) contributed to a lot of causes FINANCIALLY. She was big on anti slaughter, for example...but wouldnt get her hands dirty. Wasnt christ, for example, one who got down WITH the impoverished? I know Buddha was...

Anyway, I just went on a tangent, but there is more than one way to contribute, and im sure many of us do, though smaller in NUMBER, and without the religious GUILT. Though seeing how hateful human beings are, I help in small ways and encourage DD to do the same. Admittedly, I prefer rescuing animals, nursing wildlife over dropping money in a donation jar...

PS for the fiftieth time, not everyone needs religious guilt to try to live a moral life.

Though, I was once told by a Muslim coworker of my DH (we were arguing religion) that the inner voice that tells me stealing/lying etc is wrong...IS the voice of God.


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