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        11-24-2012, 10:28 AM
      #21
    Weanling
    I couldnt stand meat for the better part of my pregnancy..I like it once again thankgod.. but because of that I'm anemic and had to add Iron into my long list of other prenatal pills I gotta take..


    I also have seen a cow butchered. I don't much care for the blood and guts of it, but I like the end product. Just because I don't want to watch something end its life doesnt mean I shouldnt be allowed to eat meat. I try (when finances allow) to buy grass fed, free range , and organic.. Or meat from animals that friends raised. I cannot always do it unfortunetly but I do try as I don't like how meat is grown. Commercially. Fortunetly we now have our own land and plan on raising our own meat come this spring, but NOT everyone is that lucky.
         
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        11-24-2012, 10:47 PM
      #22
    Started
    I've seen animals be slaughtered and then butchered. I've assisted in it as well, I must have a strong stomach because I still love steak and would hate not being able to have it. Just make sure you know how to make up for the nutrients you would normally get eating meat and know how to eat healthy as some vegans and vegetarians are malnourished since they just cut meat out without compensating. Soy products also can increase your chances of breast cancer since it is like estrogen as said by ricci0love.
         
        11-24-2012, 11:03 PM
      #23
    Yearling
    I recently quit eating meat. I made some friends when I moved that now board my horses and they (as well as their kids, with the exception of the son) are vegetarians. I thought it was interesting, but I never really thought about it much.

    Then, I started working for (and made friends with) a couple that also has horses and they are vegetarians too. Almost vegan at times. I'd never met (knowingly) any vegetarians before and then all of a sudden I knew six. So... I asked why, what they eat, etc. I educated myself, and gave up meat cold-turkey (pun intended). I haven't had meat for over a month now, and it has been surprisingly easy to stick to. I also stay away from most dairy... we drink almond milk and I buy eggs from a local fellow, but the cheese is tricky... I freaking love cheese.

    I've probably lost 10lbs since I started eating more salad and less barbecue. The health benefits are endless, and it feels good knowing I'm not eating animals. Because I LOVE animals.

    So, I don't eat meat, I don't like hunting or hearing about dead animals in general (I ran over a turtle and cried for the rest of the day), yet I work at a gun shop and I am in the military. Why am I so weird?
         
        11-25-2012, 01:53 AM
      #24
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Saskia    
    I think that unless a person is willing to go and kill, skin and prepare an animal themselves they shouldn't eat it.
    Obviously you've never butchered a steer or pig.

    Do you have any idea what it takes to properly butcher a large animal? I raise my own steers and pigs. Do I process them myself? HECK NO!

    I don't have a spare $100,000 to go buy bone saws, meat grinders, specialty knives, a walk-in to age the beef and the materials to build a smokehouse for the pork. I don't think 95% of the world's population does either.

    I am fully aware of the butchering process, I have watched it multiple times but I choose for someone who has a clue to what they are doing and is watched by an FDA inspector to ensure my meat is not contaminated to butcher my animals. $200 vs random hunks of meat that may or may not be recognizable? Gee... real hard choice there!

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    Originally Posted by Saskia    
    They think that because they are removed from the process they aren't responsible for it.


    Speak for yourself on "responsibility". I am EXTREMELY picky about whom I choose to process my animals because I want to ensure that I don't end up with tainted or otherwise "ruined" meat. I don't let just any old yahoo be my butcher. I do NOT treat my animals like crap or disrespect them simply because someone else does the butchering.

    Oh and my Thanksgiving turkey? I held him down while his head was chopped off and then plucked him myself. I wanted to do the chopping but my friend was terrified I would axe his hand instead of Mr Turkey.


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        11-25-2012, 02:25 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Delfina    
    Obviously you've never butchered a steer or pig.

    Do you have any idea what it takes to properly butcher a large animal? I raise my own steers and pigs. Do I process them myself? HECK NO!

    I don't have a spare $100,000 to go buy bone saws, meat grinders, specialty knives, a walk-in to age the beef and the materials to build a smokehouse for the pork. I don't think 95% of the world's population does either.

    I am fully aware of the butchering process, I have watched it multiple times but I choose for someone who has a clue to what they are doing and is watched by an FDA inspector to ensure my meat is not contaminated to butcher my animals. $200 vs random hunks of meat that may or may not be recognizable? Gee... real hard choice there!



    Speak for yourself on "responsibility". I am EXTREMELY picky about whom I choose to process my animals because I want to ensure that I don't end up with tainted or otherwise "ruined" meat. I don't let just any old yahoo be my butcher. I do NOT treat my animals like crap or disrespect them simply because someone else does the butchering.

    Oh and my Thanksgiving turkey? I held him down while his head was chopped off and then plucked him myself. I wanted to do the chopping but my friend was terrified I would axe his hand instead of Mr Turkey.


    Hey, that's great that you're educated about the process! That's what I meant - you are realistic about the process, you are willing to come face to face with it. I don't mean everyone should butcher every animal, and as you say its a skillful thing, but people should be aware of it (in fact they should be aware of everything they do), and I think your attitude is the right one. Maybe growing up in the country everyone is like that! But in the city where I grew up people weren't like that at all.

    Anyway, each to their own
         
        11-27-2012, 09:29 PM
      #26
    Foal
    I eat vegan. I'm obviously not a lifestyle vegan as I use leather, but I stay away from products tested on animals and when I use leather its for function, not fashion. I believe if people are going to eat meat the should be able to kill it themselves. I am not saying they should kill every animal they eat, but they should be able to stomach killing an animal. My neighbors have raised cattle, pigs and turkeys for meat. They treat them well and when it's time for the animal to be slaughtered its quick and painless. I commend them for taking responsibility for where their food comes from and treating their animals well, even if they are not companion animals. I'm not saying every person that eats meat should raise their own animals either, but I think they should educate themselves as to where their food comes from, and support farmers such as these. If I were to eat meat (I was raised pescetarian so only ever ate fish) I would support local farmers and probably hunt as well. I know some people say hunting is unfair to the animal but I would prefer hunting as I know that animal has not been abused, has lived in the wild, is not pumped full of hormones and I do the "dirty work" myself.

    People say not to attack anybody for eating meat because they are afraid they will becoming militant but I have found quite the opposite. I don't shout my veganism from the rooftops (if it comes up in conversation and people are genuinely interested I will tell them about it) or attack people for eating meat but I have actually had people attack me for not eating animal products!

    As far as soy products and "mock meats", that all can be avoided quite easily while still eating a healthy diet. I however am not the healthiest vegan... well, off to eat some brownies!
         
        11-27-2012, 10:37 PM
      #27
    Started
    I'm an unashamed omnivore and feel best when eating a well-rounded diet that includes foods from all groups (except insects!). I also cannot eat soy because of the plant estrogen.

    I do process the meat I eat. It is very humbling to take the life of an animal to sustain my own life and that of my family and others. I don't find that it takes much equipment, but I'm a pretty basic sort of person.
         

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