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        04-15-2012, 07:58 PM
      #21
    Trained
    Yup my bad, something like 14 out of your 56 posts are horse related.

    If you have the patience you can go back through mine I would guess that 80% or more are horse related, because this is like a horse forum
         
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        04-15-2012, 08:07 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Elky    
    Well maybe you need to learn how to count. And I suppose all of your posts are horse related. Not.

    Pot meet kettle.
    What is the point you are trying to make. We have told you over and over what a Natural born citizen is, yet you keep reapeating your self. Just so you know, most of us hear really don't give a horses fanny about "is he, or isn't he."
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        04-15-2012, 08:09 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    We are all free to post in any thread and open up new discussions. But some post in political threads more than others.

    While I did appreciate your spin, it just seems to me that you are not absorbing any of our responses. It's like you are putting your fingers in your ears and going lalalalalala.....I can't hear you.....
         
        04-15-2012, 11:03 PM
      #24
    Trained
    This is another case of not being able to defeat him so we will discredit him. Any way we can. By any means we can. This whole debate about the man being a US citizen is absurd.
    Such things distract from the real issues.
    They also insult the intelligence of the american voter.
    Elky get over it. Your time would be better spent volunteering for the republican party to help defeat him.
    Such post discredit the party. Most intelligent people can see it for what it is a stupid distraction. Shalom
         
        04-15-2012, 11:30 PM
      #25
    Green Broke
    Wow..just wow..Besides darabians making a great point..What does it matter? I'm pretty darn sure he will be booted out of the WH soon..So who cares?.. I am NO BAMA all the way but Lord..What are you trying to accomplish here?.... Playing Pete and Repeat isn't getting you anywhere. I'm sure there is a MUCH better topic to talk about than the president who will be forever known as the president who ran the country into the ground with a smile on his face..Laugh, I'd rather waste my time arguing about Parelli, at least he has some sense..
         
        04-16-2012, 12:08 AM
      #26
    Super Moderator
    If you think these politcal threads are tiresome for republican voters, you can imagine how tiresome they are for me, who voted for Obama in "08 and will do so again.

    HOwever, a person has the right to play primarily in this playground, if they so desire. Just play fair and it wont be a problem.
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        04-16-2012, 09:23 AM
      #27
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    If you think these politcal threads are tiresome for republican voters, you can imagine how tiresome they are for me, who voted for Obama in "08 and will do so again.

    HOwever, a person has the right to play primarily in this playground, if they so desire. Just play fair and it wont be a problem.
    Setting aside the main topic of the thread, which is silly, I really don't understand why anyone would vote for Obama again. Politics aside because we are all of different political views, why would anyone vote for an incumbent President that has run up the debt out of sight, put us deeper into the recession with high unemployment and record food stamp participation, lowered our country's credit rating for the first time in history, greatly increased government's footprint and involvement in our daily lives, greatly increased regulations, and I could obviously go on and on.

    I am a moderately conservative Republican, and voted for Bush the first time, but after experiencing him for 4 years and seeing exactly what his policies were, I didn't vote for him the second time.

    I just can't understand it...do liberals actually LIKE a deep recession? Do liberals really LIKE half the country on food stamps and a national debt that is killing us economically? Do liberals simply not understand the implications of the debt?

    This whole thing doesn't make sense to me at all. Politicians campaign for office, you listen to what they say, pick the one that fits your political philosophy the best, and elect them. But doggone, when a President is a failure and the entire country suffers, why in the world would you re-elect him? I was just as critical when we re-elected Bush. Are Democrats so blind that they actually think Obama has done a good job?

    I can understand the lazy entitlement segment of society supporting him because they can sit around doing nothing and get their liberal welfare, but I just don't understand how intelligent regular people can support a person that has failed...whether Republican or Democrat is not really the issue.

    I sort of liken it to being from a Chevy family, so you go out and buy a Chev, it ends up being a POS and falls apart, and you go right out and buy another one instead of going with a Ford or Honda or something...makes no sense to me...
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        04-16-2012, 09:45 AM
      #28
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Faceman    
    Setting aside the main topic of the thread, which is silly, I really don't understand why anyone would vote for Obama again. Politics aside because we are all of different political views, why would anyone vote for an incumbent President that has run up the debt out of sight, put us deeper into the recession with high unemployment and record food stamp participation, lowered our country's credit rating for the first time in history, greatly increased government's footprint and involvement in our daily lives, greatly increased regulations, and I could obviously go on and on.

    I am a moderately conservative Republican, and voted for Bush the first time, but after experiencing him for 4 years and seeing exactly what his policies were, I didn't vote for him the second time.

    I just can't understand it...do liberals actually LIKE a deep recession? Do liberals really LIKE half the country on food stamps and a national debt that is killing us economically? Do liberals simply not understand the implications of the debt?

    This whole thing doesn't make sense to me at all. Politicians campaign for office, you listen to what they say, pick the one that fits your political philosophy the best, and elect them. But doggone, when a President is a failure and the entire country suffers, why in the world would you re-elect him? I was just as critical when we re-elected Bush. Are Democrats so blind that they actually think Obama has done a good job?

    I can understand the lazy entitlement segment of society supporting him because they can sit around doing nothing and get their liberal welfare, but I just don't understand how intelligent regular people can support a person that has failed...whether Republican or Democrat is not really the issue.

    I sort of liken it to being from a Chevy family, so you go out and buy a Chev, it ends up being a POS and falls apart, and you go right out and buy another one instead of going with a Ford or Honda or something...makes no sense to me...
    (I bolded the part I am referring to)

    I'm generally not one to get into political discussions, but I do often read/listen to them and try to see the views from all sides. Nor do I "peg" myself with any kind of political label and have lived/been surrounded by utra conservative Rs and at other times lived/been surrounded by uber liberal Ds. And everything in between.

    So far, since I have joined this forum, the political discussions here seem to rely heavily on people's perceptions of what failure or sucess means to them individually.
    Some people think this administration is not a failure, others think it is a downright mess. And still others may not be happy with where things are, but the upcoming alternatives are far scarier.

    To me, it is an easy read and I can certainly understand why some people will vote for him again, and why others will not.
    Just my $.02 this morning while running low on caffeine.

    As an aside.... I've hauled with a POS Chevy (doesn't mean all Chevys are POS) but I won't own another one and have converted to being a Dodge fan, but it was based upon performance alone.
         
        04-16-2012, 10:09 AM
      #29
    Trained
    Faceman, we all don't think Obama is a failure.
    Plus with the candidates the Republicans have running this election cycle are far scarrier to us.
    The republicans have moved farther to the right than the democrats have moved to the left.
    You posted that you listen to the candidates make a decision and vote for the one that fits your image of the bgetter candidate. We are.
    Those werent you exact words sorry about that.
    Plus the infighting during the primaries has shown that the candidates are willing to placate the social conservatives at any cost.
    Most voters do not think that abortion, gay marriage, birth control, or cutting taxes are more important than jobs, the deficit, or the economy.
    Shalom
         
        04-16-2012, 10:35 AM
      #30
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dbarabians    
    Faceman, we all don't think Obama is a failure.
    Honestly, and I mean this in a friendly way, that is not even a rational statement.

    I can list scores of reasons why he is a failure, from those I mentioned above to the ridiculous failures of his cabinet members and other appointees, the waste, fraud and abuse in federal agencies under his watch and so on and so on.

    If you think he has been a success, then tell me why you think so. List his successes. Be objective as I am, and make a fair asssessment - don't fall prey to the liberal media and water cooler talk. No "inherited" bunk - every President inherits garbage. Three years, with 2 of them having a Democrat House and Senate, is plenty of time to turn things around. Instead things have (obvioiusly) gotten worse.

    And because you don't like the competition is no reason to support a failed President. Do you think I liked voting for John Kerry in 2004, the second Bush election? I had worked with Kerry several times as he was on the Senate Small Business Committee, and he is a nice enough guy, but waaaay too liberal for me. But Bush was a failure in both his economic and foreign policies, had his chance, and there was no way I could support him for re-election. And I am not the only one...there were a lot of Republicans that didn't vote for Bush the second time.

    I just can't seem to get past the fact that so many people can vote for a failed President - and although I will await your assessment of his successes, by any reasonable measure, he is a failure. Obama may win the election this Fall, and if he doesn't it almost certainly will be very close, so millions and millions of people will vote for him, and I just don't understand why people want 4 more years under a failed leadership.

    Got to head out of town, so will check in later this PM...
         

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