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    04-18-2012, 08:37 PM
I HATE going to our small town grocery store. There is a running tally of how much food stamps would cover. Usually I could buy a weeks worth of groceries for under $8. Argh!!!!

Face those stats are mind boggling!
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    04-18-2012, 09:27 PM
Faceman, most of the 46 million are children the disabled and the elderly.
Those numbers also increased due to umemployment.
How is Obama a success? He ended the war in Iraq and is winding down the one in Afganistan.
Retail sales are up and have been. Salkes rose 8.2 % for the first Quater
Unemployment is down. The decline has slowed in March the first time in 3 months.
Factories are hiring. Becuase demand is up
Businesses are restocking shelves.
Housing sales have slowed for the first time in 7 months.
All these are indicators that the economy is improving.
Obama promised and signed into law the Affordable Healthcare Act. Giving millions more access to healthcare now and in the future.
I am aware that people that can work take advantage of the programs and it has become a way of life for some. It is frustrating.
Good debate everyone and I have read everyones post. Some points I agree with other not. Everyones are important.
Perhaps we need to start another party and really shake things up. Shalom
    04-18-2012, 11:21 PM
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Affordable Healthcare?, 20 million may lose their current Healthcare

At worst, 20M may lose employer insurance -

The Stimulus..... 447 Billion for supposedly 1.9 million jobs, that is 235,263.00 per Job... wish I could make that much? Great use of our Tax money....

Wars? Obama stopped one 2 years later than promised, btw he started two wars/conflicts, one without Congressional support. Libya and Yemen, if memory serves me correct

National Debt ... Increased more in 3 years than 8 years of Bush
National Debt has increased more under Obama than under Bush - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

I could post a dozen more with documentation ....

I will not post them all and wait for documented proof of Obama's accomplishments.....

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    04-19-2012, 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
Would this question even of been asked if he had turned out white rather than black?
Absolutely…and it was. McCain went through the same thing because of his birth abroad (Panama).
    04-19-2012, 10:59 AM
…and unemployment is not down. When Obama took office in January, 2009, the unemployment rate was 7.8. It has NEVER been that low since. That, to me, is a failure.

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    04-19-2012, 11:31 AM
Originally Posted by SouthernTrailsGA    
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The Stimulus..... 447 Billion for supposedly 1.9 million jobs, that is 235,263.00 per Job... wish I could make that much? Great use of our Tax money....
Sadly, it is far worse than that...

Having worked for a federal agency, SBA, that is there for job creation, I can tell you that the government doesn't statistically "create" jobs - it statistically "creates or saves" is a sad game that is played to convince the public that government programs are doing more than they actually are.

For example...whenever I made a small business loan to a company, the number of employees is part of the application. That number is "counted" as "jobs saved" - EVEN THOUGH THE COMPANY MIGHT NOT BE IN TROUBLE. I approved about 3,000 SBA loans in my 15 years with SBA, and of those about 1,000 were for start-up businesses. The rest were for existing businesses, and I doubt that even 10% of those were under any threat of closing.

Then...of the start-up businesses, more than 50% fail within 3 - 5 years.

Then...of the jobs actually created, a substantial percentage would have been created anyway - SBA loans are just one financing option.

It is all a big game...believe me, as a retired SBA Loan Officer and Public Information Officer, I know - I played the game the same as everyone else - didn't have any choice.

I get sort of a chuckle out of it because the Republicans are challenging the number of jobs crated by the stimulus, but heck, it is not a party thing - I did contractc work with SBA under the Reagan administration and worked for SBA under the Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II administrations, and they all do the same thing. Of course there was no mammoth $447 billion stimulus package under the others.

The bottom line is I assure you (objectively) that the cost per job of jobs truly created by the stimulus package was well over $1 million/job, and more likely in the $1.5 million area. And to top it all off, many of those jobs were temporary jobs like construction contracts.

It is a shame that this kind of information is not available to the average Joe on the street. Government should really be more transparent so that you don't have to know someone on the inside or have to dig and dig and dig to find the truth. Many years ago when the media was less biased there was a lot more (relatively) objective investigative reporting. Today, all you get from the media is sarcastic men and big boobed news babes that do nothing more than parrot the liberal or conservative leanings of whoever owns the media company they work for. The media have always been biased, but nothing like today. Fox is virtually a campaign aide for Republicans, just as CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, and PBS are for Democrats. I'm more of a Jack Webb ("Just the facts, ma'am) type of guy, but you never get the facts without the spin today...
    04-19-2012, 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by BaileyJo    
And just to further prove my point here is the FULL audio of that conversation.

Obama Not Born In Kenya - McRae / Berg Full Clip of Grandmother - YouTube#!

Start this one from 5:45.

Or how about straight from the horses mouth

How about his wife's mouth
    04-19-2012, 08:56 PM
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What I want to know is why it took Obama 3 years to finally produce a Birth Certificate ..... If I was accused of not being born in the USA, I would have produced my BC on day one and shoved it in front of everyone's noses....

Also, why does he seal all his College Records and why has no one come forward saying the remember him at Harvard.

Was he Qualified to become President.... NO... as a State Senator and his limited time in Congress, he had one of the worst voting records in the history of Politics, unless of course you count his normal vote cast "present" as accomplishing anything .....

    04-19-2012, 09:20 PM
Faceman, I agree with you about the spin. It distracts totally from the problems this country faces.
When the news becomes the news we need to look at the underlying problem of who can convince the most viewers to tune in,
It is all about ratings and making money.
They allow anybody to become an expert as long as you agree with me, and sound and look good on TV.
Both parties are guilty of reckless spending and placing party before politics. Both have been hijacked by the extreme or at least those that are the most vocal. Shalom
    04-19-2012, 09:35 PM
Yeah, it is pretty disgusting. The broadcast media was mildly liberally biased for a long time, with the print media on both sides, but two things happened - Fox came along, and the public started demonstrating a National Inquirer mentality. While I think it is good to have a conservative broadcast news source, Fox took it past the mild stage and forced a polarization in the media, which is getting worse and worse every year. Yellow journalism prevails, and the "news" today consists primarily of biased sound bites. Thank God for the internet - I just wish more people recognized subtle bias when they see it...
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