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        04-11-2013, 06:10 PM
      #11
    Super Moderator
    Sorry, you are young and certainly becoming part of the 'blame' era!
    Not your fault the road had not been cleared. Not your fault you have a heavy right foot. The fact that you obviously knew the road had not been cleared makes your defending argument pointless.

    You are lucky you get the rural roads treated when there is snow. Try living in the UK (which would certainly wake up your awareness whilst driving as the roads are narrow and twisty) Nothing gets treated around here when there is snow let alone cleared!. We are rural and know there is not the money to treat all roads so just drive accordingly.

    I would also suggest you get your eyes tested!
         
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        04-11-2013, 06:39 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    My eyes tested perfectly fine last year, and I know **** well that they will next week as well.

    Not to mention, we aren't even talking about MY accident. THAT was not MY car. MY car is in a completely different thread. I did not hit a tree. I suggest you get your facts straight before you try and put blame on me.

    Not to mention, you have not one iota (ioda?) or inkling of how -I- drive. I may have a heavy foot on highway, but sure as it turns dark at night I do NOT speed on back roads. Not to mention, for my accident, I was at least 15 under the speed limit when I wrecked my car. I cannot say how fast my boyfriend was going during THIS accident.

    Also, where did I say I knew the road hadn't been cleared? First off, MY accident was on a main road that heads to the hospital. My BOYFRIEND'S accident was indeed on a rural road though.
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        04-11-2013, 07:48 PM
      #13
    Trained
    First off, I'm glad everyone walked away.

    Just how do ashes make a road treacherous? I don't understand that.

    I do understand that accidents happen. They are unintentional, hence the term "accident". 90+% of the time accidents are the result of poor judgement - the rest of the time its because of an unforeseen event (animals, sudden heavy downpour/snow/fog, accident near you that you can't avoid). So, for the 90+% of the time, I think the point is for us to learn from others mistakes and remember to drive according to conditions which includes weather, road maintenance, road characteristics, vehicle and driver abilities.

    So, I do agree that your boyfriend made an error in driving on a corner that isn't just ideal. I hope that your boyfriend, and you, take away some learning from this. I also do agree that we are human and we screw up.

    I think that the point Foxhunter is trying to make is not to blame it on others, but to accept that we make mistakes and we have to accept the responsibility for that and learn from it. Preferably, we can learn from others mistakes as well, but we're not always so good at that.

    I've gone into the ditch myself a few times in my decades of driving. Every single time was my own blasted fault. Or how about when I tried to drive away from my gooseneck trailer with the tailgate up. I've caught myself lots of times driving where I make a mistake, but the fates decided to forgive me and nothing bad happened. I've had it happen when something completely out of my control happened (animal, freak weather, unbound load on a trailer going the other way...) and from pure luck and luck alone, there was no one else there so I had the road to myself to correct and get out without a scratch. And even those times, I look back and think, "Now did I honestly not have any warning about that at all, or was I just not thinking and paying attention properly?" It's really VERY rare that we shouldn't have known better.
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        04-11-2013, 11:15 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    I understand that completely NorthernMama, but I personally see bad road conditions where they are almost always ideal in such weather as an unforeseen event. Both my boyfriend and I have driven the road hundreds of times, and not once has it been like it was when I went to look at the crash site. The road was worse than it's ever been, and it hadn't been like such a week prior since the last that I'd driven it.

    I understand that it isn't meant to be blamed on others, and I can't say it wasn't poor judgement on my boyfriend's part since I wasn't there, but in my accident I didn't blame anyone. My accident was just that, an accident. It wasn't my fault because I was speeding and it wasn't anyone's actual fault that there was ashes on the road and my tires hit it and I lost control. But then I thought after my car was evaluated and I was told my tires were completely bald that there was fault to put on someone. I had my car in the shop maybe a month before my accident because I needed a new battery and I tole him I wanted the tires and brakes checked. I was told everything was fine and I went on my way. Who would've thought to check their brakes and tires themselves when a garage just did it for them and they paid? Not me, garages fault they can't tell bald tires from good tires. While I would love to sue him over it and have him lose his business because of the fact, my reciept was somehow lost in the accident. So thus, I've left the blame to no one. Wasn't my fault or anyone else's, it just happened. Will I ever use that garage again? Not a chance in h*ll. My mum made an appt to put my new truck in for me and I told her to cancel it not even a half hour after she made it there. Never will I trust the garage again, and I won't ever use his gas station either just because it makes me feel better.

    Though, I found Foxhunter's post rude and basically telling me that I should take full blame for something that wasn't in my control. Not to mention..I wasn't even in the car for this accident.

    Also, you know what kind of ashes I'm talking about? The tiny tiny gravel that I've slipped on walking down the road before. I have a feeling that if it's enough for me to fall on my a$$ just walking with the stuff spread out that a pile of it could very well cause a vehicle to lose control.
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        04-12-2013, 02:06 PM
      #15
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    Iseul I am not being rude I am being truthful!

    I do realise that your accident and your b/friends are different, just using it as an example.

    Anyone who gets into a car to drive has a great responsibility, not only to themselves and any passengers but to other road users.

    Anyone who has driven for any amount of time will admit to loosing concentration when at the wheel especially on familiar roads, this is when accidents happen.

    I have been driving for over 47 years. During this time I have had two major RTAs, the first I ended up taking a cop down over a steep bank on the front of the car.
    The second was about 5 yrs ago when I collided with a tanker managing to write off both my truck and the tanker.
    The first was certainly not my fault - if anything it was the cops fault and there was no claim against me even though the poor man was seriously injured.
    The second was considered 'knock for knock' Narrow lane sharp bend going over an even narrower bridge and due to the road being lower than the fields and the hedges full summer growth, neither of us saw each other until it was to late.
    I was travelling at about 20 mph as was the tanker.
    I have had many other 'accidents' and all can be put down to me not driving by the rules. Most when I was inexperienced and going to fast or not concentrating.

    I would say that 98% of people, when they get their license, think they can drive. I wold say that after driving 500,000 miles then a driver can say they are 'experienced'

    Majority of drivers who get their license when they are younger, have a few prangs before they realise that they are not as good a driver as they think.

    I now drive very few miles a year, only around 4,000 compared to the UK average of 12,000 miles. I often drive to fast down these narrow lanes where deer can appear immediately in front of you as if by magic. I long ago learned not to swerve for them.

    I have learned from experience how to deal with a skid so it is automatic. I have learned how to drive on ice and snow and how to keep 100% concentration when driving in heavy traffic. I have also learned to notice bad drivers and to keep half an eye on them when they are near me.
    Does this make me a 'perfect' driver - you bet your bottom dollar it does not! It just makes me a slightly more experienced driver than many.
         
        04-15-2013, 08:41 PM
      #16
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    You haven't heard the old expression "With one boy you have a boy. With two boys you have half a boy. With three boys you have none" Seems to be what was going on here. Iseul, we drive on all kinds of road conditions and the trick is to slow down. With 3 guys in the car, I'd bet dollars to donuts he didn't slow down.
         
        04-16-2013, 10:58 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    You haven't heard the old expression "With one boy you have a boy. With two boys you have half a boy. With three boys you have none" Seems to be what was going on here. Iseul, we drive on all kinds of road conditions and the trick is to slow down. With 3 guys in the car, I'd bet dollars to donuts he didn't slow down.
    Had not heard this one but it sure is true. To many boys together having fun and their collective intelligence will drop to that of a rock. I've happened to live through that somehow more than once!
         
        04-16-2013, 04:10 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    "With one boy you have a boy. With two boys you have half a boy. With three boys you have none"
    Oh, I love that! Seeing that I have two sons, and as of this summer both them will be driving, I think I'll be remembering this saying and using it frequently!
         

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