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        07-17-2010, 03:05 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    I'm going to have to be careful to keep my big mouth shut here - I have lived in the country for most of my life but have worked in the city ( London ) , what I find most distressing is that there are more and more - lets call them - townies or city folk - who move to the countryside to get away from the city and then try to change the countryside to their liking , many times they get what they want because of their ' big money '

    For example I know of someone who bought a holiday cottage in the Yorkshire dales - she only went there for two or three weeks a year herself , she complained to the local council that the local dairy herd made 100yrds or the road messy when they had to be moved from one of thier fields to the farm to be milked - she didn't care that this had been going on for hundreds of years , only that she was getting the wheels of her car dirty.

    Another debated issue in the UK is the ban on fox hunting - I know what happens when a fox gets in a hen house or into a field of sheep with lambs - but the townies have got fox hunting banned because they are in the majority - they don't have a clue how the countryside works - only how they think it should work
         
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        07-17-2010, 03:38 PM
      #22
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nutty Saddler    

    Another debated issue in the UK is the ban on fox hunting - I know what happens when a fox gets in a hen house or into a field of sheep with lambs - but the townies have got fox hunting banned because they are in the majority - they don't have a clue how the countryside works - only how they think it should work
    I don't want to stir a nest of angry bees, but would it not be more efficient to exterminate the surplus foxes by using traps or some equivalent method?
    30 men on horses and 80 hounds chasing 1 single animal seems to me a tad over the top. Perhaps the fox itself is just a reason for the folks to ride in open air and enjoy a nice run....which I guess could be ok as well. But can't they just...shoot them?

    We had a similar problem in some parts of Romania with...boars. They would come in small groups and destroy the crops, break fences, enter yards and eat whatever they'd find and they can be quite aggressive especially if there are piglets in their group.
    The local hunters associations gathered and...shot them down and that was the last we've heard of those boars.
         
        07-17-2010, 11:43 PM
      #23
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nutty Saddler    
    I'm going to have to be careful to keep my big mouth shut here - I have lived in the country for most of my life but have worked in the city ( London ) , what I find most distressing is that there are more and more - lets call them - townies or city folk - who move to the countryside to get away from the city and then try to change the countryside to their liking , many times they get what they want because of their ' big money '

    For example I know of someone who bought a holiday cottage in the Yorkshire dales - she only went there for two or three weeks a year herself , she complained to the local council that the local dairy herd made 100yrds or the road messy when they had to be moved from one of thier fields to the farm to be milked - she didn't care that this had been going on for hundreds of years , only that she was getting the wheels of her car dirty.

    Another debated issue in the UK is the ban on fox hunting - I know what happens when a fox gets in a hen house or into a field of sheep with lambs - but the townies have got fox hunting banned because they are in the majority - they don't have a clue how the countryside works - only how they think it should work
    I totally understand how you feel - I'm from a town of 150 people in the United States. Recently someone decided to buy the land that my grandpa had always hunted, my dad had learned to hunt on, and where I learned to coon hunt & always rode four wheeler. It is now home to a few big summer homes which is soo frustrating because they destroyed the beautiful view up behind the pond. *sigh* it was my favorite place on Earth.

    Now as far as the state I am from, Wisconsin, well they decided a few years back they should bring back Timberwolves and Wildcats.. Okay, that sounds great and all to people who like wolves and wildcats, but to those of us who live in the country that is definitely not good. One friend's son always played in the backyard and this cougar started coming around.. The dad freaked out that the cat would attack his son and brought it up and they said if you shoot it you're going to jail for shooting an endangered animal..

    Oh and now the state is planning a "timberwolf hunt". IMAGINE THAT, they brought back a species so much that there was an abundance and everyone around here HATES them because they kill our livestock, hunting dogs, etc. And now they are putting a huge price tag on a tag to kill one - not at all a scam to make more revenue, hmmm?

    It's just so annoying that people have to change the way things are to accomodate to what people sitting in a city who have NEVER EVEN BEEN to a place where there is wildlife let alone LIVED THERE making decisions like this! Ahhhhhhhhhhhh I could talk forever about this!

    How did it turn out with the city girl who bought the cottage? I would tell her flat out if it were my farm, but that's just me. :)
         
        07-17-2010, 11:45 PM
      #24
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by inaclick    
    I don't want to stir a nest of angry bees, but would it not be more efficient to exterminate the surplus foxes by using traps or some equivalent method?
    30 men on horses and 80 hounds chasing 1 single animal seems to me a tad over the top. Perhaps the fox itself is just a reason for the folks to ride in open air and enjoy a nice run....which I guess could be ok as well. But can't they just...shoot them?

    We had a similar problem in some parts of Romania with...boars. They would come in small groups and destroy the crops, break fences, enter yards and eat whatever they'd find and they can be quite aggressive especially if there are piglets in their group.
    The local hunters associations gathered and...shot them down and that was the last we've heard of those boars.

    I think the reason with trapping is that it hurts other animals, etc. as well, it's not limited to just the fox. To me it seems much easier just to hunt them.. Then the gov't doesn't have to pay for the trapping, etc., they actually make revenue off of having tags, etc. Not sure how they do it across the pond, though, that's just how they do it here!! :) :)
         
        07-18-2010, 12:48 AM
      #25
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ptvintage    
    There are things that country children don't see everyday that if someone didn't tell them about it, they wouldn't know.
    My parents enabled me to visit every Canadian province, fourteen American states, and four European countries before I turned 19 (bless them). I moved to Quebec on my own and it was a huge culture shock and there were loads of things I didn't know existed - but I could tell you how to milk a cow, load a horse, or pluck a duck.
         
        07-18-2010, 01:51 AM
      #26
    Yearling
    Fox Hunting - good or bad depends on your point of view -

    The question that I think should be asked is that - even in a democratic country should the wishes of the majority be enforced on everyone - sometimes it is clear that the majority have little or no understanding of the real issues but get what they want because the government wants to stay in power, so they don't do what is right, only what is popular

    I have nothing against ' city children ' ,but education is based on attaining a career that earns the most money - so there is little time or effort in teaching those that live in cities countryside life . More and more people live in the cities so the wishes of the city people is worth more in a politicians mind than those that live in the country

    One day Washington and London ( and every other capital ) must wake up to the fact that you don't have to have an education to vote - so bad choices are being made to salve the electorate , interfering with how the countryside works is a prime example - how are city people , and city children ( who grow up to vote on such matters ) going to understand what the countryside needs to function , yet it is their point of view that is listened to because theirs is the biggest voice

    When are countryside affairs and issues going to be left in the hands of the people who live in the country
         

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