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post #1 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
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concealed carry

Does anyone here have a concealed carry permit? I've been really on the fence about getting mine. I'm a pretty small woman.. 5'3" and 110 pounds.. and I do feel very vulnerable when I'm alone anywhere. Walking, driving.
I am a hunter so I have shot before(I'm more a a bowhunter than gun but have shot guns).
My biggest fear with concealed carry is your gun being used against you in an incident. I do have pepper spray but have been told by many that it's easy for it to get into your own eyes and face..
I will someday soon have a dog, and I do feel that a dog is a decent deterrent from an attacker if you're walking or in your car, but A.I don't have a dog yet and when I get one, it will be a puppy so it will be awhile before it's even slightly threatening looking! and B.even when I have a dog, it obviously will not be with me at all times..

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post #2 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 07:10 PM
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I don't have one, but I'll be getting one as soon as I can.
While I carry a knife at all times, I was originally worried about someone using it against me. Since I've been with my bf, we've played out scenarios with the knife (and a training gun mold) so that I know how (and am able) to disarm someone else of a gun/knife (probably wouldn't chance it with a gun and how to ensure that mine isn't taken from me (mainly just keeping a distance or being too close.

I thunk it's a great idea, and even being small, a gun is going to be intimidating to anyone, IMO.
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post #3 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 07:14 PM
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No experiences, just an opinion. Go ahead and get the permit, if you don't want to carry a gun, you don't have to - but at least you'll have the permit if you do decide you ever want to carry a gun with you.
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My first thought is, that if you are worried about your gun being used against you, then you have waited too long in that time frame to use it.

See if you have any IDPA matches near by and go to one. Find the guys who are retired cops and talk to them. You will get the best free advice about the subject and you will probably want to shoot the next match.
Doing things like IDPA will give you the muscle memory to use your gun if you want to carry, it will also help you decide if it isn't right for you.
You don't need to carry if you aren't comfortable with the gun.

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I don't have my carry permit. I just need to go through the steps to get it. My gun is in a holster beside my bed at night, and I have a GSD mix that knows the "Whassat". They don't need to know shes looking for squirrels.
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post #5 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 07:20 PM
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And ladies, those tiny guns that you think will be good for carry, those are called "Hand Cannons" for a reason. Please actually shoot them, and not with reloads. My little Ruger LCR got returned because it just wasn't fun for me to shoot.

General rule, the heavier the gun, the less recoil is has.

And please get something equal to a 9mm hollow point or larger. A .22 is only deadlier than a broom handle.
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post #6 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 08:48 PM
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Having the Permit makes you legal when and if you ever decide to carry, but training, training, training is the key, being able to shoot a pistol means little if you have not been trained properly in the art of self defense.

Of course practice, practice, practice after the Training of course is also required because you want to be sure and hit center mass if the need arises

A .380 with hollow point bullets would be the smallest I would suggest to carry, if you do not like semi-autos then a .38 revolver with hollow points is great too.

Hollow points are best for any caliber, but essential in smaller calibers, they limit the possibility of over penetration and collateral damage, plus have the best stopping power.

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post #7 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 09:03 PM
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Yep, stopping power. Because personally, it isn't the sober people that I am worried about. It's the ones who are out of their mind on some substance and they aren't stopping because of pain alone.
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post #8 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 09:14 PM
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Here in Tennessee with have a handgun carry permit, meaning we can carry open, or concealed.

My wife and I ride a lot in the mountains of E. Tennessee and N. Georgia and I always go armed.

Here's a good link:

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Click on the state you're interested in.

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post #9 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 09:21 PM
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A CWP doesn't just cover firearms it also covers larger knives, brass knuckles, tasers, and other things you can classify as weapons. It covers you to carry these things concealed. In a lot of cases it also covers you out of state(during your class you will find out which states honor your states CWP).

My suggestion to you is TRAINING TRAINING TRAINING. A gun is pretty much useless if you have not trained for a situation. You need the physical and mental preparation. Are you certain you could kill a person in a life or death situation? The mental training is as important if not more than the physical training. You have to assume a certain mindset. Be more aware of your situations and yourself.

I would definitely start listening to Tom Gresham on the radio. You can find a local channel and times here: Gun Talk Radio : Tom Gresham's Gun Talk Radio Show : High Powered Talk Radio

You can also watch videos from Gun Talk TV here: GunTalkTV - The #1 Online Resource for Gun Training

They talk all the time about personal defense, how to carry, the laws regarding carry, what is the best gun to carry, an absolutely anything guns. There are resources to help get you the training you need as well.

And if you have any questions, just give Tom a call, or post on the Facebook page. I have posted on FB several times and thy are always quick to give answers.

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post #10 of 18 Old 08-13-2012, 09:26 PM
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I used to have one. When I lived in Kentucky, I walked around almost always armed.

Now I live in Maryland and you pretty much need to have a REASON to get a permit - documented threats against your life or carry large amounts of cash due to work. The law is going to be challenged soon. If I could get a conceal and carry permit, I would have one. I trail ride semi-armed with a semi-illegal weapon. I bought a retractable police baton and ride with that. Oh, and I keep some wasp spray too. Better than pepper spray because it has a 60 foot shooting distance and shoots in a stream.

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